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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 74 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I thought if people pay for things, like extreamly expensive Apple hardware, no ads can exist there? Must be confused or hearing things.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you're not paying, you're the product. If you're paying, you may still be the product.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Open source is the exception, and it's important to note that.

Now you may be thinking "well duh", but I've seen plenty of people, even fairly techy people, refuse to use good FOSS software because they think they're being monetised somehow and that because there's no ads, it must be from secret data theft.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

and sometimes you don't pay and aren't the product, yay open source!

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Enshitification isn't a problem of people being bad at buying stuff.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The business majors are about to learn an important lesson about open source.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they though? The top valued companies in the world are balls-deep in advertising and data collection.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Those companies need people to believe they don’t have a choice present them with a choice and watch the ad people freak the fuck out.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, lmao even.

You have unrealistic views of the common person's technical acumen if you think this is going to have an impact of more than fraction of a percent, if that.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don’t need to know the technical side of it to understand “this is cheaper, it doesn’t have ads plastered everywhere”

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They also don't need to know the technical side of it to say 'wow, this app doesn't work and/or it's out of date' to close it and go back to something that works/fits their use case, even if it has ads.

I've tried to get people to use FOSS alternatives, but most would rather it work with no effort and deal with a lesser experience than having to fight with it to make it do what the other app does natively.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was generally believed about a year ago that ads would only show up in free products, like Google search, or whatever.

Now we see them in cars, Apple software and all sorts of very expensive products.

Because its never enough ads.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It was generally believed about a year ago that ads would only show up in free products

It definitely was not lol. Ads have been in paid products for literal decades by this point.

You're not going to be seeing an ad for plane tickets on the map - if you search for "burgers" you might get an ad for Burger King show up as a sponsored result at the top. That's it, it's just ads for companies that are relevant to what you searched for in the app.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe in some products but not a lot. We didnt have ads in Netflix, we didnt have ads in cars, we didnt have ads in tv software and so on. You probably know this.

I dont see the point of pretending its not getting worse. A lot worse.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Cable tv has literally had ads for decades. Magazines have had ads for as long as they existed.

What world have you been living in?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure those things had ads, but you are seemingly ignoring the new places that have ads now.

But I dont care really if you see it or not. :)

[–] FreedomAdvocate 1 points 3 hours ago

That’s a different story. You said that up until a year ago paid products didn’t have ads. That’s demonstrably false, we have decades of evidence to prove so.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Oh fuck dude. You made coffee come out my nose.