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Result falls short of giving Milei a congressional majority but surprises many analysts after series of scandals

The party of Argentina’s far-right president, Javier Milei, has won Sunday’s midterm elections after a campaign in which Donald Trump announced a $40bn bailout for the country and made continued aid conditional on the victory of his Argentinian counterpart.

With more than 95% of ballots counted, La Libertad Avanza secured 40.84% of the nationwide vote, in an election widely seen as a de facto referendum on the self-styled anarcho-capitalist’s nearly two years in power. The Peronist opposition, Fuerza Patria, secured 31.67%.

While the result falls short of giving Milei a congressional majority – which remains with the Peronists – it has surprised Argentinian analysts, given the recent blows to the libertarian’s popularity from corruption allegations involving his sister to the current economic crisis.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

also "liberal" isn't left either. it's the ideology of capitalism.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

To be fair, I think the words liberal, left and capitalism all have different meanings to different groups. And sometimes I think they subtly change meanings while someone is making a single logical point.

What do you mean specifically here?

That a lot of political groups that align themselves as liberals are also in favour of free trade? It reads as if you are also characterising capitalism as a negative so I'm presuming it's something like enabling the rich and powerful to maximise profits with minimal oversight. Since you are only relating capitalism to liberals I think you're referring to the far-right rhetoric that they will stop this "capitalism" but ignoring that most traditional political groups thought of as conservative are also pro free trade, and ignoring that these far-right groups haven't (I would argue) taken any/many actions that target stoping this "capitalism" (for example Trumps tariffs are practically for demanding concessions from other countries and you can see this because their unstable values hurt local industries but help pushing for demands).

Or maybe you simply mean that the left as you use the label is focused on civil liberties without being tied to systems of economics?

I'm sure you have plenty to say about what I wrote but can you lead with how I was wrong with my assumptions about what you meant?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Liberalism is an upgrade from previous feudalism, but it replaces kings with rich people making laws to cement their power. even though it is meant to provide equality, it only does if private property, like landlords or factory owners is preserved, which is the pivotal point of capitalism.

which does result in exploitation, and inevitably leads to inequality, endless human suffering, and dissatisfaction. but when the public is against the system that favours them powerful, they will pivot to fascism.

Liberalism paints itself as progressive, but will only give symbolic victories. Remember the defund the police and BLM? once liberal politicians got in power, they renamed a street to BLM, and raise police budgets. Symbolic victories.

It's a pattern that once you see, you can't unsee.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let's run with this. What are some political examples of "left"?

Choose your flavour, democratic socialism is probably the most "centrist" left. it maintains capitalism but ensures a decrease in inequality and eliminating poverty and hunger...

Further left you get more utopian ideologies (some mutually incompatible), Like mutual aid, anarchism, socialism, planned economies... and much munch more.

Some were tried and were successful until the fascists or CIA intervened. Look at operation condor, the closest thing to an anarchic state is DAANES, which is a feminist federalist state which the mainstream media completely ignores and is fighting for its life in a war against NATO.

the reason we don't usually hear about the left, is because anything left of liberalism tends to get murdered by the CIA. even today, Mandami is being threatened with deportation despite being an American citizen for being a socialist and leading the polls.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

as someone who actually understands these words, im fiscally conservative.