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I don't think this is true at all. In Brazil

Pause. We ain't talking about brazil. Leftist ideas over there might just be more acceptable to talk about and you won't be immediately seen as something akin to a Nazi.

you have figures like Jones Manoel with 600k and Ian Neves with 500k subscribers on YouTube. They constantly emphasize how they're Marxist-Leninists and how a revolution is needed in Brazil. Constantly. Jones has written multiple books, is currently in the academia, and he's also an activist and constantly going around to agitate and give lectures. He has also run for governor in his state before (didn't win), and he has contacts with federal representatives in the congress, as well. He's completely unapologetic about his convictions and doesn't hide them at all. In fact, he even said that he noticed that it's better when working with non-communist politicians to just stick to your convictions rather than compromising them and pandering to others. That apparently that gets a better response. This is a guy that is actually changing things in Brazil. His follower count has seen dramatic rises on various platforms, and he's also injecting actual Marxist-Leninist arguments into the general political debate there.

Considering that you get silenced, doxed, harassed or straight up attacked as a slightly more left liberal, i would say that a leftist won't put up these numbers and if they did, then they might literally be killed.

Meanwhile, here you're trying to convince everyone how Hasan "The Pipeline" Piker needs to do things slowly and "hide his power levels".

Never said that. Hasan has a weird hater/fan base that seemingly only watches clips and reads about him from secondary or even tertiary comments and hallucinates an image about him that is not accurate at all and then y'all even extend it to people commenting about him and hallucinating things that were never said.

Oh, he can't have any strong convictions,

He has strong convictions and constantly goes against liberals so idk what you are talking about

because that might scare off the liberals, but the guy in a country that had a right-wing military dictatorship not too long ago can.

I assume the military dictatorship was not supported by the proletariat and therefore a socialist coming up and promising change and betterment is probably more likely to be popular than the socialist in imperial america.

Bro, he's not doing shit for the left.

More than us for sure. He is the literal first part of the pipeline and the reason why some of us are even here on this site.

but he hasn't introduced socialist thought into the mainstream, and everyone just knows him for him as a personality rather than a force of the left/communism.

Considering that he is mainstream and constantly talks about socialist things, i have a hard time seeing how he didn't introduce socialist thought to people? Like, yeah he ain't rallying people behind him, but that is -like i said before- irrelevant because there is no one yet here that could rally behind him anyway.

He will be a somewhat major part on why the future socialist politicians have anyone to speak to and agitate.

You'll learn a bunch from every single Ian and Jones video, what has one ever learned by watching Hasan? What theoretical contributions has he made?

Does he need to? He is talking to people that think china is cartoonishly evil. He is trying to move those people down the line so that they can watch your Ian and Jones videos without feeling the need to call them red fascists

You don't need to introduce things slowly. How long has Bernie been around? If he was a "Trojan horse into the mind of the liberal", you'd expect some changes in the American society by now, but the latter has moved even further right over the past decades.

Bernie is irrelevant now. We have mamdani now. I firmly believe that without a bernie, there wouldn't be enough people warming up to more leftist ideas and accepting mamdani who is more left.

I am not saying that they are good and that they will lead us to win, that's just you hallucinating again. I am saying that they are softening the people up with increasingly leftist ideas and that this will lead to us being able to talk about socialism proper eventually because the liberal mind will go "well, i am already at mamdani and he is not a red fascist, but also didn'thelp me, what is one more step to the left i guess"

There's no historical evidence to suggest that entertaining liberals by pandering to their positions is anything but something you can tap yourself on the back for and tell yourself "well, I did what I could".

Hallucinating. I don't say pander to liberals, i say talk to them where they stand. Don't call them social fascist when trying to agitate them towards socialism even if the term is correct.

Be normal.

And look, I'm not hating on Hasan as such. I don't think he's going around claiming he's a leftist revolutionary, right? He's doing whatever makes him money, and that's cool, but let's stop pretending he's playing some long game for the ultimately victory of communism.

More hallucinations. Hasan doesn't say he is playing some long game and neither does any of his fans. He educates and removes the reflex of the liberal to immediately shit themselves at the mention of socialism and moves people down the line that are ready to move down the line. Simple stuff, really.

Criticise hasan for what he does wrong and not for things that literally no one ever said.