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Death of beloved neighborhood cat sparks outrage against robotaxis in San Francisco
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2025
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Yet another reason to despise AI. Animals deserve to be safe too. We've already taken so much from them as it is.
as the comment chain below highlights, autonomous driving AI is completely different from LLMs. Computer vision and control theory have made big improvements because of machine learning, do you despise this too?
It is a bit frustrating how these different technologies are bunched under the same inaccurate moniker.
Ai has a proven track record of causing less accidents, and killing far fewer animals per km traveled than the average driver.
92% fewer accidents involving animals than the average human.
Ai doesn't drink, get distracted, or smoke meth like the ml mods.
Public transportation does this too and isn't controlled by some company trying to make graphs go up
Don't worry. A lot of places are also trying to privatize their public transportation.
link from the article https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-16/woman-gets-millions-after-getting-dragged-by-self-driving-taxi-in-san-francisco
People get jail time, what do we do with machines?
Hold the manufacturers and operators (specifically for company operated) accountable?
The machine is the product, not the operator. We don't jail classic cars either. We hold their operators accountable. The one in control. Self driving has a shift of who is in control - now "indirectly".
if only that were the truth.
these companies will attempt to settle for bottom dollar or drag it out so long you'll have to go homeless to pay the legal fees.
there is no justice left in the legal system. justice isn't just blind anymore, she's been decapitated.
So in conclusion, it's not AI that's the problem it's the legal system?
why not both?
Accountable for what killing a stray cat? Come on if you don't want your cat to be hit keep it inside. I don't get how people think it's ok for a cat to wander. Even though it's probably illegal.
The comment I replied to expands from a cat death to a person being dragged. It expands to general accountability.
There are also a lot of people out there that will intentionally swerve to hit an animal. Mark Rober made a video a long time ago where 6% of drivers went out of their way to hit animals that were just chilling on the shoulder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fp7flAWMA
fucked up that people do that.
And have a nice habit of being turned off before the accident so the AI didn't cause the accident. Numbers are bullshit.
I believe these cars drive on the same roads all day, whereas people are likely to be driving in and out of areas these systems are not familiar with. I suppose a good comparison would be of a taxi driver that only operates in the same area as the driverless cars, if that exists.
here you dropped this
your figures (though I doubt them) don't include the skew of driver vs driverless vehicles. of course driverless cars are 92% less likely to have an accident involving animals. that's because driverless cars account for less than 1% of the entire vehicle population.
but it does randomly hallucinate.
The vote question would be better suited for the admin team and not mods, as we are just over this community.
Too many people being nasty in this thread, so we've removed the negative comments for rule 3.
the AI in cars is not the same as the AI in LLMs, it's not programmed to guess its way to a conclusion.
that being said, it's still far from perfect, and shouldn't be on the road yet.
teslas make some pretty crazy assumptions (hallucinations).
ever see the one where it sees pedestrians in a cemetery?
or how about the accidents where they veer off the road because the lines were missing.
Then keep the car inside. Outdoor cats are not safe and get killed by cars animals.
Yes, keep the car inside.
Please, keep your car in their car bedroom at all times.