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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It wont. Every time I go to the range, I'm still the youngest dude there as a 42 year old.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Governments have been toppled without the use of firearms before, have some faith.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Portugal has joined the chat

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How do you think an unarmed mob of people can fight the most militarised nation on earth? There are nations like Egypt with more corruption and repression than the US that have successfully prevented any kind of insurrection due to its strong military.

In the US, the police, military and other armed forces (ICE) all mainly consist of literal nazi’s. I think you don’t realise how bad things will get if the liberal opposition keeps making the bad choices that have made them as weak as they are now.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Allow me to introduce you to the concept of a general strike.

Besides, militaries are far more likely to side with the people than the government in a situation like this.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

America and France both liberated their nations against two of the most powerful military nations in the world, with governments that were far more hostile toward their people.

Firepower is not the most dangerous weapon in a Revolution, ideas are, because they can't be killed. MAGA will never win, because the more oppressive they are, the more support they'll lose, even among their own followers, and even among the military. America is too large a country, and if MAGA pushes us to the breaking point, which getting closer everyday, they will be overwhelmed quickly.

A nation this large, unleashed in a national riot against the wealthy, sabotaging, destroying, burning, looting, killing, would be very, very bad for them. The mayhem would be everywhere, and military and law enforcement couldn't handle it all. Law enforcement would be overrun within a week, and be ineffective, possibly worse.

The Sociopathic Oligarchs would run to their bunkers. We'll deal with them later. First we have to deal with all the run-of-the-mill Oligarch wannabes, who are finding out that they aren't rich enough to be invited to a bunker somewhere, but they are still considered the problem, and they will be dealt with harshly, as examples. Thought a little money made you better than regular humans? You will be reminded that you are not.

If you are a regular millionaire, you better start supporting Democrats and start fighting MAGA, because MAGA is going to get you and your family killed.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Don’t blind yourself with the idea that the US is somehow different than all other nations with oppressive regimes. There is a real possibility that the US moves further and further into fascism and not taking that risk seriously will ensure it becoming a reality.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Time to start your very own chapter of the Socialist Rifle Association? :D

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Pass, although I agree with the idea of it. Joined SRA in 2022 and they took my $35, sent me an invite to a discord channel and never contacted me ever again.

As someone that doesn’t like using discord… I’m not doing that again.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago

Oof, that sounds terrible I'm sorry to hear that, and it's good to know. I really hate the trend of lazy reliance on Discord as the sole means of communication. :(

Same vibe as when some community solely operates out of a Facebook group. Yuck.

"I refuse to go where young people are, and never see any young people!"

Absolutely live the life of your choice, but if you opt out of going where a set of people are, you are less likely to encounter that set.

Not saying the SRA couldn't have done better here, because they absolutely could've, but our ass is 40-mumble-mumble, and we talk to leftist gun folks of youth online every day.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Signing up for anything socialist costs a lot. I dont know if you ever thought you'd have use for an elevated government security clearance, but your signing up for that association will be the subject of any security clearance interviews now, and the interviewer will lean toward disqualifying you for it.

I guess public service as a career choice isn't on a lot of peoples minds these days. Which, speaking as a member of the public, is too bad.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That just means old guys have all the guns, but they can only hold one of them at a time.

They are old. Push them over, and take their guns.

All those guns out there? We're going to take them away, and use them. And the supply is endless.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This may come as a shocker to some people, but you actually need to practice shooting in order to to be effective.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I've been shooting all my life, it's not that hard. I've never understood the challenge. You got sights, line them up, hold your breath, and squeeze between heartbeats. Do it few times, and you get the hang pretty quick.

All my friends are amazed at my shooting, and I have terrible eyesight. I occasionally will put a round through a previous hole in the target. It's not that hard, I've taught it to lots of people with great results. Even people who think they already know how to shoot have improved. It's shocking how many people don't know to hold their breath while shooting. I think it's because a lot of people start breathing harder when they have a gun in their hand, heartbeat goes up, etc.

Keeping your cool while rounds are coming at you at the same time? That's a bit more challenging. But hitting a static target can be picked up in a single session. You might not make consistent head shots, but body mass shots will be good enough.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well on the topic of anecdotal stories, the first time I shot a rifle, when I was 38 (just like a lot of people who haven’t been shooting their entire lives) I missed paper at 25 yards. I didn’t know how to zero the sights, even though I had watched YouTube videos explaining it. I needed to get some help from someone else that was at the range.

Second time I went shooting, I found out that somehow my BCG was re-installed wrong after I cleaned it, consistent failure to eject.

Noob mistakes. There’s a lot of people that are completely noobs. You’ve shot your whole life; but you need to realize a lot people that you and I likely agree with have probably never even held a rifle, let alone shot one.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

Valid, and to clarify, nearly all of target shooting has been handguns. I'm not a hunter, so I haven't had that much experience with long guns, which are much more complicated. Handguns are generally just point and shoot. The safety is the only real complication.

I got a lot of my experience in a buddy's basement. He was jeweler, and his workbench was in this enormous basement of his ranch house. It was so long, that he actually set up a shooting gallery in it, firing at targets taped onto a big box of old phone books. He'd work on jewelry, and I'd shoot until I got bored, and then I'd go dig through his box of loose jewels, and look for the prettiest ones. I love rubies, sapphires, and emeralds. I think I'm off topic here, nice talking to you.

[–] SilverCode@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That is because all the younger people are at schools

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not on Saturday, but it also wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume they cannot afford it. That shit adds up.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago

Thankfully boomers gonna die soon.