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To anyone thinking the that a revolution will end with "their" side winning:
its a revolution, everyone loses something
Unless it's a civil war, them everyone will lose nearly everything
And even if "your" side "wins", I guarantee you that someone will end up in charge that is a hundred times worse than what you started with. The Russian Revolution was to get rid of the tsars and make everything fair for everyone and instead they ended up with Stalin oppressing the shot out of everyone, as a semi random example
If and when this goes south for the US, everyone will regret it. There is nothing as bad as a war that puts neighbor against neighbors, and sons against their fathers.
This is a garbage liberal take. The Russian Revolution yielded tremendous victories for oppressed people in Russia. It is dishonest, ahistorical nonsense at best to omit the horror that was the Tsarist empire in contrast. That you can point out contradictions within that society in the 20th century explains nothing about what happened to it.
I guess people should just do nothing?
The people should leave while they can.
Not to mention the Civil War in USA.
These libs will literally endorse slavery if it maintains their own personal privilege.
That's basically the whole history of USA.
People really lionize the French Revolution. I get that the grievances behind it were very real but it also led to years of mass slaughter and ended up a dictatorship and then monarchy again anyway.
It worked in the US due to the distance from the main political power center and the existence of local governing institutions that had already been around for a while. A revolution in your home turf, that shared with the political power base, is a different ballgame.
I believe that if you allow people to get power who have killed lots of people to get there (i.e. killing all the nobility), then you've essentially made murderers your new rulers. That's a big part of why Russia ended up with Stalinist terror.
Transfer of power needs to be peaceful. There must be no bloodshed during the next revolution.
I very much agree with you
There are reasons why you sometimes during a revolution or at the end of a war need to end the lives of a few people, certain ring leaders. See the Neurenberg trials for example.
But yeah, the Soviet Union went way way over the edge and started killing people indiscriminately just because terror. Something similar happened (and in some way still happens) in china. It's the main reason why I'm veryuch against communism
Tangent that is required because I hear the tankies furiously tying: Give me socialism supported by a very well clamped down capitalist system that simply puts hard limits in how much anyone can own. Anything over (for example) 10 million in net worth goes 100% to tax. Companies cannot be worth more than 1 billion, the rest goes 100% to tax. Gives the government a huge tax income to pay for a socialist system that can pay for free healthcare, free education, free housing, hell, universal basic income even. Companies cannot get too powerful, people cannot get too powerful but at the same time it leaves the rest as-is, so we retain all our freedoms
Lincoln was a jackass, huh? \s
Peak lib privilege.
He wasn't really a revolutionary.