Should have vetoed the Gaza resolution though. Fuck Palestine Authoritarity!
this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2025
46 points (100.0% liked)
The Deprogram Podcast
1613 readers
117 users here now
"As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say that we're tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We also know that when the people understand, they cannot but follow us. In any case, we, the people, have no enemies when it comes to peoples. Our only enemies are the imperialist regimes and organizations." Thomas Sankara, 1985
International Anti-Capitalist podcast run by an American, a Slav and an Arab.
Rules:
- No capitalist apologia / anti-communism.
- No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
- Be respectful. This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome; this includes a warning against uncritical sectarianism.
- No porn or sexually explicit content (even if marked NSFW).
- No right-deviationists (patsocs, nazbols, Strasserists, Duginists, etc).
Resources:
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
But this time, it's their own shit.
@demerit@lemmygrad.ml
I really take issue with the language here. You're saying that China is not utilizing leverage it has within the United Nations because they like the rules too much? In what way do you think they benefit from the precedent being set here? If they do, then why did Russia and China have their own alternate deal that had to be tabled due to US threats?
How can you say China is not fucking around, and in the next breath, say they are fucking around in the United Nations, and they're fucking around with human life on a scale that should terrify everybody? How can you say that?
I'm sincerely interested if you lay out a comprehensive response I'm going to write it down. I've been asking as many people as I can. To lay the cards on the table, I think that what people are doing here by saying they support China even though they think that they support genocide is as harmful the idiots running around saying they're responsible. I mean, look, you're probably going to start talking about how they're the largest trade partner of every country in the world (the US applies unilateral sanctions via its control of the financial system its not a semiperipheral country that survives via selling its labor power to the core (e.g. not semiperipheral like subimperialist Saudi Arabia)), or how there's an unsourced article saying that they sold literally six less than two fistfuls of drones to the UAE, so focus on the resolution if either of you respond. I'm just focusing on this one Dropsite article and the role of the alt media in western propaganda. This makes no sense on its face based on resistance statements re: PLO or the leverage China has even before considering its the only reason Iran is even around rn
I don't know what I expected to be honest it's not like anyone in the US grew out of the Bush era protest movements more anemic than even Vietnam
I think you misunderstood me. I am saying that china constrains themselves via UN law. The statement made is a declaration of sovereignty and a gentle threat, but it builds chinese action on a UN framework, just how the gaza resolution was done upon a UN framework and not vetoed by china & russia because of UN legal authorization of the PA and arab collaborator governments who use the UN to neutralize us imperialism in the region.
The other things you mention are entirely out of the scope of my comment. And I am not one of the "china & russia betrayed gaza" crowd. Because other middle eastern governments and of course the west first and foremost are faaaar more responsible if anything its more like "Kazakhstan, Egypt, Syria, UAE. Qatar, Morrocco and Saudi Arabia betrayed Gaza"