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US army secretary briefs ambassadors at ‘nightmare meeting’ in Kyiv on Friday after talks with Ukrainian leader

US officials have told Nato allies they expect to push president Volodymyr Zelenskyy into agreeing to a peace deal in the coming days, under the threat that if Kyiv does not sign, it will face a much worse deal in future.

The US army secretary, Dan Driscoll, briefed ambassadors from Nato nations at a meeting in Kyiv late on Friday, after talks with Zelenskyy and taking a phone call from the White House. “No deal is perfect, but it must be done sooner rather than later,” he told them, according to one person who was present.

The mood in the room was sombre, with several European ambassadors questioning the content of the deal and the way in which the US had conducted the negotiations with Russia without keeping allies informed.

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Why is anyone listening to the US anymore? They are turning themselves into North Korea and losing any credibility they might have had. Who gives a shit what they say anymore?

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Because Europe has had half a decade to fill the void and they can't get it done and continue to act like cost efficiency is the name of the game.

Europeans seem to want to rag on about the US being irrelevant while being completely unwilling to put their money where their mouths are.

I am very supportive of Europe, but they need to wake up to that reality and stop bickering about pennies.

They should have been at wartime production years ago, and yet they still don't even have a 5th let alone 6th gen fighter jet.

The fact that the USA, who is currently chopping its own legs off, is managing to provide just about equally to the Ukrainian war effort to you, who are literally neighbours, should be embarrassing and sobering, but instead people just keep complaining and expecting the US to both shut up, and fix it.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 45 minutes ago

I agree, but US hardware are still top of the line which are essential for any countries to effectively combat Russian, and potential Chinese, aggression. Even part of the deal of EU and Trump is the former investing in the US military. Many countries also do not have the same military industrial complex that the US have, so many are too reliant for de facto protection. Trump is merely formalising and making money from that unwritten rule.