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European countries proposed a radical alternative Ukraine peace plan on Sunday that omits some of the pro-Russia points made in the original US-backed document and calls for Kyiv’s sovereignty to be respected.

The counter-proposal emerged as US, Ukrainian and international negotiators met in Switzerland. The 28-point US document leaked last week demands Ukraine hand over territory to Russia, limits the size of its army and agrees not to pursue the Kremlin for alleged war crimes.

Having been blindsided by Washington’s initiative, Ukraine’s European allies published their Kyiv-friendly plan on Sunday. It says negotiations over territory should take place after a ceasefire is agreed and should start from the line of contact – the existing frontline.

It says both parties would agree how any truce would be monitored “under US supervision”. Unlike the White House text, the European alternative does not call for Kyiv to withdraw from cities it controls in eastern Donbas. Nor does it rule out Ukraine’s membership of Nato, but points out there is no consensus over its membership.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

there is no may about it, several people who speak Russian state it is obvious.
Among them Anders Puk Nielsen, a military analyst from Denmark that speaks Russian has expressed it is obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3oGZYqxm4
Sorry I don't remember the timestamp, but this guy is among the most trusted analysts on the Ukraine war.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yaah I've seen his vids. Former military analyst something from Denmark or there abouts?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

He is an active professional military analyst for the Danish military, and he speaks Russian.