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I'll educate myself soon. Been a bit busy but that textbook Luna Oi translated should help

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[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

IMO, dialectical materialism is Marx and Engels trying to explain systemic analysis and feedback loops before those terms were invented and the only language available was philosophic Hegelian bullshit.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In anti Duhring, all I know of dialectics is an example, you have the original stance of something like a seed, then the seed is negated in form as it turns into a plant, and eventually the plant matures fully and reproduces, spreading seeds that would form into more plants and seeds and it thus repeats.

But yeah, maybe this one works.

Original form > negation > negation of negation and it repeats on and on and on

[–] cwtshycwtsh@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

I love that seed example.

It can easily be used with other topics too, like why we don’t describe an adult as a baby, that’s why we also don’t describe a trans person how they were born, but how they are now. At some point we all have been just tiny cells, right? But look at us now! We have fingers and all. How cool is that!

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Oh did you notice that too? It was so totally Hegelian systemic analysis loops!

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Doesn't dialectical materialism subsume systemic analysis/feedback loops ie revealing direction of change and teleology, going beyond positivism to reveal a deeper science?

(Book recommendation - Hegel and the Freedom of the Moderns by Losurdo)