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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 112 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I know some who went to Linux and a few who moved to Mac. But no one is seeing Win11 and saying "oh man, I gotta get in on that".

[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 77 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

I jumped in to the Win11 beta and really liked it, they finally got most of the control panel into the new settings architecture and I never once had to dig deep into things to adjust something small, a lot of stuff that took finagling just worked.

And now I fucking hate it. The release version is jammed so full of bullshit features and useless AI junk that it is an active hindrance to whatever I'm trying to do. And more and more stupid fucking bugs bubble up in to the desktop and never get addressed, all while I get pop up after pop up urging me to try some bullshit new feature.

I already had one foot into Linux with my desktop but kept this because it was a Surface and nice at some point, but my next buy has to be a Linux 2-in-1, I can't deal with Microsoft's horseshit any longer.

I do want to emphasize that for the moments that it was unadulterated by rent-seeking, the new Win11 actually was kinda great.

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 40 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In case you weren't aware there's an ongoing project adding Surface hardware support to Linux kernel. It's in a pretty mature state, with most of the features already implemented and working (here is a full breakdown per device). I've been using it on my SP6 for a few years with zero issues.

It might be worth a look until you get to buying new hardware.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you for this. I haven't figured out what to do with my Surface yet, but this sounds promising.

[–] OldFartPhil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Posting from a Surface Go 2 running Debian Trixie with Gnome+Phosh. Everything except the webcam just works on the stock kernel (for webcam support you need the patched Surface kernel). Vanilla Gnome is fine, too, if you use a hardware keyboard. I run Phosh because the onsceen keyboard is much better than Gnome's.

[–] Maiq@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago

Kde is working really well on linux-surface. Had to change the OSK to maliit(?) but everything I need works. I haven't tried to install the camera driver because I never needed it. Stylus works really well ootb. Use it with Krita. Screen rotation works great and I use it as an e-reader. I choose an easy arch distro because disk encryption works with the native keyboard although it has been some time since i tried a non rolling distro and other distros could have addressed the startup keyboard issues by now. 10/10 would recommend.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I left Windows for Linux in the early 2010s. Windows was shit then, but this is a new level of shit. I don't know how anyone does it. After discovering the freedom Linux can provide I could never go back to Microsoft.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I finally committed to the switch last weekend. My desktop PC was the last holdout still on Windows in my fleet, because of Adobe Lightroom. I decided to just force myself to learn Darktable, and nuked the Win 11 install and replaced it with Fedora 43.

Fun side note, some of my games run way better than they did on Windows, despite not having native Linux builds. lol.

[–] Zidane@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

My bottles borked my battle.net install somehow so instead of tackling the issue I'll put it off for months/years and continue dual booting

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

everyone goes through that phase. logs often help a lot, and you will start to get a feel for what may be wrong. once some things become second nature you will stop needing windows. meanwhile, friction means you are learning.

i usually favor lutris for gaming anyway, it's better at keeping everything together and updated ime. bottles tends to lag behind a bit by default which is not ideal for games atm.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 3 points 3 hours ago

My condolences

[–] Starfish@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

did you try the ltsc version? i heard it comes without all these unnecessary "features" and feature updates.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I know some people who shoot and hunt their own venison. Some people moved over to butcher shops. But no one is finding roadkill and saying "oh man, I gotta get in on that"

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's actually not terribly uncommon for people to take roadkill if it's fresh and in decent shape.

In my state (PA) you're supposed to report it to the game commission within 24 hours, and you're supposed to surrender the hide and antlers to them unless you pay for a separate permit.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But no one is finding roadkill and saying “oh man, I gotta get in on that”

Fun fact, there was enough public outcry in '16 for the state of Washington to amend it's laws and make it legal to harvest roadkill for food.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Of all the states, I wasn't expecting Washington.

Alabama? Sure.

Mississippi? I can see that.

Georgia? Yeah, ok.

Washington? Of all the states, WASHINGTON??? Oh god damn....

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I mean if you hit a deer with your car, why let all that venison go?

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago

Oregon also has roadkill salvage permits available!

[–] mr_account@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

When I was a kid I visited my cousin in backwoods Missouri, and we heard on the radio that there was an uptick in leprosy because of people eating roadkill armadillo. It was a real wtf moment in my life

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Shit. Is there a certain kind of roadkill that's safer to eat?

[–] mr_account@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Don't know, and don't care to find out. I only visited the backwoods, I certainly don't live there

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

Gotta make fresh roadkill, then it's edible sure.