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Despite decades of evidence on the toxic effects of lead battery recycling, companies opted not to act and blocked efforts to clean up the industry.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

For what it’s worth, it’s not anti anything to point out flaws. If anything, it’s being pro because it opens the door for a conversation; which, if both sides come at it in good faith, can lead to change.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 8 points 2 months ago

if both sides come at it in good faith

ahahahah, good one

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think that my ratio makes your point, lol. I neglected to note that we need to do better, instead of just leaving it open ended.

My understanding of the current process is that it’s quite wasteful/under development. With the state of things as they are it seems unlikely that the automakers are going to improve things over the recycling that they encouraged with lead acid. But one can hope, and lobby for change.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted. Everything you said is true, and respectful.

I think open-ended can be okay, so long as there are milestones we can achieve (i.e. try different things out to see what works and what doesn’t). Something as big as the environment, health/safety, and not completely alienating industries (as much as I hate to say it, we do need them and their resources to an extent), is not something that is going to be easily solved without compromise.

I expect that my last two points will not win me any popularity contests, but they cannot be ignored.

[–] NChiwana76@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I like it, but it’s contingent on Americans actually wanting to solve the issue instead of one upping each other.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, but there are a few of us out there who want to see good things happen for all people.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Americans are unlikely to solve anything until their society goes through some dramatic changes.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’ll take generations, we’re so absolutely fucked in this shit hole

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gotta start somewhere, and gotta keep at it. It’s difficult at times, and there certainly are people who just want to see the world burn. But fuck them. They aren’t worth our time and energy.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

people who just want to see the world burn.

It stands to reason that if set on fire, their entire world will be, in fact, burning.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe less. But yeah.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Which is kinda what your post is doing