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Israeli forces executed two unarmed Palestinians at point-blank range after they surrendered in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin on Thursday.

The killings were captured on video, which showed the two men emerging from a building with their arms raised and their shirts lifted, clearly indicating they were unarmed and posed no threat to the soldiers.

The troops then shoot them dead.

The Palestinian Health Ministry identified the victims as Al-Muntasir Billah Mahmoud Qassem Abdullah, 26, and Yousef Ali Yousef Asa’sa, 37. They were shot in the Abu Dhahir neighborhood of Jenin.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

because nearly 100 years ago someone else did it to their people and now they’re saying “it’s our turn.”

Not even close.

~~Most Israelis by a large margin are descendants of people who came from Russia, not Western Europe.~~

Most Israelis by a large margin are either descendants of people who came from Russia, or already lived in the territory of Palestine when Israel was formed, not descendants of people from Western Europe.

Only a small fraction of Israelis are descendants of people affected by the Holocaust, much less of Holocaust survivors.

There is no such thing as a "Jewish Hive Mind" and the only thing these Jews share with the Jews who were victims of the Holocaust is having the same religion, nothing else - not principles, not ethics, not morals, not empathy with victims of extreme racism, not even most of their culture: just because somebody also uses a kippah doesn't mean the think like you.

The Holocaust in Israel is nothing more than a tool used by the present day Nazi-like ideology that runs that place to induce collective fear amongst Jews because it's much more easy to spread extreme racist hate amongst people who live in fear because of their ethnicity.

This explains why, rather than learning from the Holocaust to empathise with the victims of such things (which would be a natural thing for the descendants of the victims of the Holocaust to learn from the experiences of their parents and grandparents), most people in Israel have instead learned extreme racist hate for those who don't look like them and who stand in the way of what they are told "is necessary make Jews safe".

The way the memory of the Holocaust is used in Israel is a complete total shit show of Racism and Propaganda that has massivelly distorted the real thing to serve the objectives of the Nazi-like ideology which is Zionism.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 9 points 5 days ago

I should have put "their people" in quotes as you're 100% spot on. apologies.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most Israelis by a large margin are descendants of people who came from Russia, not Western Europe.

That's a factually wrong. The largest group, which is 40% of the Jewish Israeli population is Mizrahi Jews who originally came from Middle Eastern and North African communities.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Your source is about immigration (although that website is pretty yank), but the Mizrahi did not immigrate there, they were already there.

Either way, neither the immigrant groups nor the indigenous have much to do with the Holocaust. Last I read, less than 10% of Israel's population is descended from Holocaust survivors. But don't quote me on this, I'd need to find sources.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Fair enough - I don't really know what are the numbers of Jewish People who already lived in the territory of Palestine that was became Israel at the time of the formation of that country.

This info is all I found some time ago because I was curious.

I knew that a lot of people from Russia had emigrated to Israel but the actual number was very surprising when I found out.

But yeah, either way we both agree on the core point which is that a large majority of Israelis are not descendants from people affected by the Holocaust.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

I addition to the other comment you got, your source is specifically about Jews while mine clearly isn't. Go tell them yourself.