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I should have specified: I don't agree with every part of the article, but I shared it for this excerpt:
so you're judging their costs and balances based on ten year old data? and acting like times haven't changed enormously in that decade?
I know the amount of bandwidth AI's are using to scrape wikipedia is itself an onus:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2025/04/ai-bots-strain-wikimedia-as-bandwidth-surges-50/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/wikipedia-contributors-are-worried-about-ai-scraping.html
https://thecoremachine.com/technology/wikipedia-vs-ai-traffic-holding-steady-but-scrapers-are-draining-its-resources/
Here is their FY 24–25 Audit Report. To wit, their net assets were $296.6 million, while their total internet hosting expenses were $3.5 million. So the claim that hosting expenses make up a trivial fraction of their total assets would appear to hold true even moreso today than a decade ago.
Granted, the FAQs for the report state that "The vast majority of […] revenue came from donations […], as well as investment income, Wikimedia Enterprise revenue, and other revenue primarily related to a cost sharing agreement with the Wikimedia Endowment".
I remain suspicious of the large increases in "Salaries and wages" year-over-year compared to other expense categories.
cool, you do you. don't donate and continue to use it like a parasite lol
I prefer the term "commensalist"
sure thing parasite. no, actually you're worse than a parasite, you're actively discouraging people from doing the right thing.
you're an asshole lol
I think I can live with that
shame.
ah okay, I think sharing that entire article is kinda endorsing all the weird stuff in it, but thanks for specifying.
I know those are large numbers, but like, Wikipedia is one of the most visited sites on the internet? "$97.6 million in assets" is peanuts to that (compare it to any other website in a similar range!). The fact that they don't have that much operating costs is a good thing, right? It means they're efficient, which is what people love to complain about with non-profits.
Anyway, it's not like they ask for much--I think the last fundraiser I saw they were asking for $2.75 a year, if you felt like they provided you that much value over the year. I certainly do, and I donate $10/year to them. If you don't feel like Wikipedia is worth that cost to you that's fair--but I think telling other people that they shouldn't donate because it objectively(?) isn't worth it is a strange thing to do.
Operating expenses don't necessarily equate to total expenditure. The article also mentions that fifteen executives took home a six-figure salary in 2015; that doesn't strike me as particularly efficient.
Notwithstanding, what I originally said was not prescriptive. People are free to spend their money as they see fit. Even I have donated to the Wikimedia Foundation in the past and still believe that they provide invaluable resources for the common good.
Where I take issue is the fact that the messaging in their campaigns often gives the impression that the organization is scraping by on user donations, whereas in reality they're sitting on a pile of assets that would ostensibly be in the 99.9ᵗʰ percentile of household net worth in the US.