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High Court challenge says law imposing ban is ‘grossly excessive’ and infringes on ‘constitutional right of freedom of political communication’

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Good on em, parents should be regulating internet access and not the govt

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Social media is not the internet.

Social media is a privatized mass-spying and manipulation tool that directly and intentionally destroys the mental health of its users.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago

Are you aware of Labor's 2009 plan to censor the entire Australian internet? It didn't succeed back then thankfully.

There is no way that they will stop at just the big social media platforms.

This is about control and further removal of being anonymous.

It's not even a liberal vs labor thing. They both have a history of bipartisan support for this type of bullshit. See: metadata retention, assistance and access, identify and disrupt laws.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In late December you'll need photo ID to search google so it kinda is about the internet

[–] dockedatthewrongworf@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Please don't spread misinformation.

Under 16's can still access websites like YouTube and Google but will not be able to interact (i.e liking videos) and comment on content. They will still be able to view videos and publicly shared content.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] dockedatthewrongworf@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And yet in your own article it can be quoted:

"Search engines will not be required to implement age assurance measures for users who are not logged in to their services, according to the new rules."

So I fail to see how you will be unable to use Google.

[–] indomara@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

You will eventually want to access a page or service and will be asked to upload an id and or scan your face to make sure it matches. I for one do not want to have to submit my private information in order to use the internet.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google cracks the shits if you use a vpn, you think they will accept users logging out en masse?

A few things. Firstly, I don't know how VPN usage has come into this discussion as I haven't made mention of VPN usage. Secondly, I've just not had the same experience. I use a VPN for all my devices and have never had a single issue using Google and it's services both with and without an account so it could be an issue on your end.

[–] dueuwuje@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes but parents aren't doing that so..........

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

That's their parenting right

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But the paremts aren't doing shit, it's why the Governments stepping in.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right... It's time to admit people and our governments are both fucked.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

People have always been fucked, we don't need a bloody police state just because some people let their kids use the internet

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Should they?

Does that include single parents? Overworked parents? Parents who don’t understand/use the internet? Do you believe that all children follow their parents’ rules when they step out of the door of their houses?

Make an actual argument for young children having social media access.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Govt could extremely easily release a product for parents, with or without NBN involvement, that helps control internet for kids. They don't and instead impact everyone with this bullshit

Those are not acceptable reasons for poor parenting. Don't move the goal posts.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

The very children who are at risk are the ones with the type of families I listed, and other at risk types. If you leave it up to the parents, you’re essentially giving up on kids with “bad” parents.

I’ll ask a different way: if you’re a child and you have parents who don’t understand the issue, or are too busy and/or stressed out to monitor the issue, or if you have friends who provide you with access…do you deserve to be out at risk/fall through the cracks?

If you actually want to solve problems…you work together as a society…you raise children as a village. If you want all the problems associated with social media use and other issues you “leave it to the parents”, which is basically giving up.

[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago

They won't.

They shouldn't need to.

They will still need to under the current form of the social media ban.