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I sleep 10 hours a night but still need to nap constantly during the day. Even 400 mg of caffeine doesn't buzz me, it just makes me feel 70% close to my normal, high energy 20s self. My daytime fatigue is so severe I've been mistaken for being drunk (even though I don't drink), and I experience a dream like brain fog around friends unless I use caffeine pills to seem present.

I know this is part of normal aging for a woman in her 30s, but it's frustrating to constantly need naps when I haven't even done anything. Sometimes you just have to biohack. Still, I feel a bit jealous of how men age differently and seem to keep loads of energy.

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 27 points 52 minutes ago (2 children)

Not saying it will definitely help, but if you're not even feeling it the caffeine dependency might actually be making you feel worse rather than better

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 3 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago) (1 children)

I don't have caffeine all the time. I only take it when I'm going to go out with friends or with my boyfriend so I'm fully lucid. I might end up switching to Adderall since I've heard that's a lot stronger than caffeine is.

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 9 points 14 minutes ago

Please, don't. If you don't have a direct doctor's recommendation, any "I think I will start using drugs because I think I will feel better" is just wrong

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

I know this is part of normal aging for a woman in her 30s

Is it?? I’m not saying you don’t lose energy as you age, but what you’re describing sounds closer to a medical problem than the norm. If you’ve had conversations with your doctor and had bloodwork done then it might be normal for you, but if you haven’t checked for vitamin deficiencies you might want to. I felt similarly shit when my vitamin D was through the floor.

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago (3 children)

It's normal! I've been checked up, I'm not overweight, all my bloods are fine.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 minutes ago

Normal for you I guess, unfortunately, but no-one else.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 minutes ago

Drinking warm water in the morning might be a nice start to the day. Also, if you're not consistent with your caffeine, you go through withdrawal symptoms that sound a lot like that.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 minutes ago

Get a second opinion, please. Doctors will often not really believe women when we communicate our symptoms.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 5 points 15 minutes ago

If you sleep 10 hour each night and still feel tired, it’s time to visit a doctor before you end up in the forever box.

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 9 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm male, but haven't heard of this level of fatigue from my female friends / wife. It does sound like having a young child though (minus the part about getting >8h sleep).

Normal or not, sounds terrible, hope it improves!

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

I haven't had children, though. I've had every blood test under the sun, too.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 7 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

This is far from normal… 10hrs sleep + naps? I saw your answers about having blood tests done and coming back good. Is there something psychological going on? Heart problems? Hormones? (I don’t need you to confirm or deny, just consider it)

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 3 points 34 minutes ago (2 children)

No, and my hormones were tested too including estrogen, thyroid, etc. all are normal!

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 4 points 7 minutes ago

You may wanna consider submitting to an actual sleep study.

If you sleep 10 hours a night and still wake up feeling fatigued you're probably not getting the quality of sleep you think you are. It's possible to have sleep apnea or other issues without even knowing it, and the only way to find out is by doing a sleep study.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 minutes ago

Autoimmune diseases don't have specific tests, they're diagnosed only from exhibiting symptoms. There's other conditions that won't show up in blood tests either.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 minutes ago

My daytime fatigue is so severe I’ve been mistaken for being drunk (even though I don’t drink), and I experience a dream like brain fog around friends unless I use caffeine pills to seem present.

As an older woman, this is not normal. Please see a doctor!!

I have an autoimmune disease that comes with chronic fatigue. I understand the struggles. This is far beyond normal.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

What are your consumption habits, i.e. when are you drinking your caffeine? The bioactive halflife of caffeine is about 6-8 hours, so it's in your system affecting your mind and body long after the caffeine buzz goes away. My personal rule of thumb is all the caffeine I want before noon, but a hard cutoff at 1pm

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

I take my caffeine pills about an hour before I'm due to go out. Outings can be 8ish hours, but even when the caffeine is at peak amounts an hour after I take them they don't make me feel buzzed or hyper, just sort of close to normal. And this is at 400 mg.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

If you're taking 400mg at noon, you'll have 200mg in your system at 6pm, and 100mg at midnight. 100mg+ in my system by bedtime will negatively and noticeably affect my sleep in those situations. You could be exhausted due to the time you're consuming caffeine

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 minutes ago

My partner and I are in our 30s and this post describes how we feel during a break after a long adderall binge, or a couple days after we roll together. This is very much not a normal part of aging! We sleep 6-8 hours per night and unless we’re coming off’a a couple weeks of adderall or the like, that’s good for the day without being destroyed.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 minute ago

Ehhh just microdose meth /s

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

I'm 43 and I'd say that there is definitely not normal. You might want to go see a doctor.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 2 points 28 minutes ago

If you know anyone with a sensitive nose, ask them if the place you live in smells musty or moldy. I've had family members go through similar issues also without any help from the medical system and mold was a major contributing factor. You and anyone else who lives with you will be nose blind to it and won't be able smell it without spending a week or so elsewhere.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 4 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Recently had my wife do a sleep study. We're vacillating between getting her into a CPAP machine and doing a weight loss program to help with the sleep apnea. She's just the same, constantly at a lower level of energy and life quality, it has limited her in a lot of ways in recent years.

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago (2 children)

I don't have sleep apnea, I don't even snore (my boyfriend has watched me sleep). My BMI is 20. I've had every blood test. It's all normal and just a thing I need to get on with that can be solved, at least temporarily, with enough stimulants.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 3 points 46 minutes ago

Might be worth looking at CFS or something. It's more prevalent for AFAB people. Even if you don't have CFS it could provide a useful framework for managing your fatigue. I personally found some supplements to be helpful. Epicatechin + coq10 did wonders for my energy while I was recovering from a related syndrome.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Oh shit. Maybe caffeine is secretly the problem? Maybe it's depression? Maybe you need iron? There are a lot of things it could be, I'm just listing things off the top of my head. Sorry though, I do know how much chronic fatigue sucks.

[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

No depression, I only have caffeine occasionally when I need to be out and social with people, or productive. My iron levels are normal as they have been checked too. Everything's normal! I'm just no spring chicken anymore.