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What do you know about the Red Nation Podcast? Are they ML? Are they good? (lemmygrad.ml)

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

They are certainly the most revolutionary and active Indigenous communist organization in the US at the moment, and worth keeping up with for that alone.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

I listen to them a lot. I love their work. It definitely takes up a different rhetorical position than the PSL does, since it focuses on decolonization and indigenous sovereignty, but they work with the PSL AFAIK.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think they're ML but they seem pretty good nonetheless. I haven't really listened to them much though, just a few snippets here and there, so maybe my first impression is wrong.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

They rule. I've only listened to podcasts from Nick Estes, but I'm told his books are wonderful. Based indigenous communists.

[–] Meow@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This thread has made me realize, while my main thinking for trying to actually talk to people online was to fight social anxiety so I could do more in real life too, it seems it also gives opportunity to practice self improvement as a Communist as well, thanks.

Edit: and also to realize that overcoming my childhood trauma isn't just something to do for my own sake, but actually necessary for the path of being a Communist, as it is that trauma that drives my paranoia so high and makes me so inclined to listen to it, I must finish addressing it to remove the biggest part of me still clinging to liberalism, so maybe that key that I'm looking for simply can't be found in Theory alone, but needs something like talking in this community to find. I was thinking of Practice as only this thing that happens in the streets, but that may have been far to much of a mechanical and narrow understanding of Practice, I already knew I needed Practice to go with Theory but thinking it had to be in the streets created a "chicken and egg" sort of scenario as I can't yet bring myself to do that, so I need to find it here first, like training wheels when learning to ride a bike.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

10/10, proud of you!

[–] Impenetrouble@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

https://www.therednation.org/the-red-nation-podcast-5/

They had Gabriel Rockhill on. Also, I think it's an important podcast to keep one aware of the indigenous struggles.

[–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Super cool, indigenous communist movement in Turtle Island.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Nice to know.

[+] Meow@lemmygrad.ml -15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Notice anything funny about the channels icon and banner? It looks like someone tried to shove as many Fascist/Nazi symbols into one spot as possible, but also obscure their nature as well, sort of crypto fascists style. So even before looking any deeper I already don't trust anything about it. The lightning bolt (and the wing looks like another), the sort of "black sun" jagged triangles on the left, the iron crosses, the rain clouds (IE stormfront), even the flowers (anarchist rose), and rainbow (CIA uses minority rights as an excuse to invade), and finally the bird (like the use of the eagle), makes me think there is no way it is accidental.

Edit: I don't actually know anything about the group, I only didn't want to engage in the liberalism of saying nothing when noticing something suspicious, I'd been re reading Combat Liberalism recently and I've been worried it was something I'd be doing

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the liberalism to avoid engaging with in this context would be speaking about something without doing any investigation.

[–] Meow@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought I was avoiding that by focusing on just the icon and banner, but I realize now that I may have been ingauging in another form of liberalism by trying to treat the icon and banner in isolation in the first place, as things only make sense within the context of how they interrelate with other things, not taken in isolation.

Thank you for your criticism, I will try to learn from this.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You are committing the fault that Mao also rallies against in Oppose Book Worship. Stop applying various analysis in the works you read as gospel. Every situation requires a pragmatic approach reliant upon the context of the situation. If you become paranoid about needing to “avoid liberalism”, to the extreme, every problem becomes a nail because you’ve only given yourself one tool.

[–] Meow@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I am not aware of how I am treating it like gospel (perhaps because my childhood trauma had to do with religion and set me like a fire against it, I don't understand "gospel" in the first place), my fears and paranoia are not related to Theory in that way, thanks to the conditions of my mental health and trauma and life difficulties and so on, all before I ever read anything, so that error had more to do with my fear and paranoia mental patterns popping up and taking over without me realizing I was, and so became primary and attempts to make sure I wasn't messing up in some way by remember Theory I've read, secondary, other comments were more helpful.

[–] comradebsauerapple@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago

God Im so glad I found this site. People on the internet actually taking criticism is such a rare thing to see. Long live Criticism and Self Criticism!

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you're reaching a lot there. Many of the things you described are nature symbols and indigenous tend to be close to / have respect for nature.

[–] Meow@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe, sometimes my paranoia can get the best of me, so I must remain careful of that about myself, even so, every time I look at that symbol my "fight or flight" response goes crazy, sometimes ones instincts protects oneself, sometimes it gets in the way.

Edit: I think I figured something out about it, rather than it being the use of fascist symbols it might be the other way around, that fascists are co opting nature symbols as a part of their reactionary thinking, as reactionary thinking is that which is in support of going backwards, of stopping the new thing, that they would cling to old symbolism, but Native Americans are still behind the oppressive wall of colonialism in the US, so what is reactionary for a fascist, may actually be progressive for a Native American.

I haven't read much about US colonialism and Native Americans yet (the result of my bad coping mechanism that makes me want to run away from horrors close to home, and preference to learn about nicer things far away, like China), or else I might have known sooner.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

rather than it being the use of fascist symbols it might be the other way around

them dialectics always strike back

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

There's no fascist symbolism here, the stars on the outside represent the sky/heavens, and the big ring seems to represent the water cycle, sunlight, rainbows, rain, then rain going into rivers (and then the sunlight bringing water back up to make it rain again). And the bird in the middle is a Thunderbird, it's a lot of Indigenous American symbolism, which makes sense, since those are the people who run the podcast.