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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

I feel like she is a bit naive about that. Racism is like a really big driving force that has lead us to where we are today, and it is still a huge part of the problem. But even if you snapped racism out of existence right now, I think that specifically the Gaza situation would only slightly improve. I think there are a few really critical things that you would also need to eliminate:

  • The biggest driving force in that area is religion, both Christianity and Judaism in Israel and the US (not all of them, but a lot of powerful parts of them) really want Jerusalem and Gaza as they are both important parts of the return of the Messiah if I remember correctly
  • Second and very close to first is power. For the US Israel is the Middle East HQ, supporting the Israeli government is basically non-negotiable. Only if the US government changes to one with actual morals (Yeah right) will they actually go against Israel. And for Israel it is currently with a government built on corruption that leans heavily towards extreme right and religious parties.
  • The rest are money, racism, and other common culprits.

I truly believe that if tomorrow racism was gone there would be very little difference in the overall situation, and this is not to reduce from fact that racism is a huge reason of how we got here.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

$$ Money $$

There's no money in helping Gaza.

[–] scapegarced@sopuli.xyz -4 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

There was no money in helping Ukraine, yet it was done. 100% lack of optics due to racism.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

There's rare earth minerals.

Gaza has nothing other than beachfront real estate, but you got to remove them in order to take advantage of that.

[–] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Not directly, but by sending weapons etc to Ukraine, the US can basically wage war against Russia with no casualties of their own, while replacing the old stuff they send with new stuff, as well as justifying more military spending in the budget. For the right people, there's plenty of profits to be made.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Ukraine is one of the worlds bread baskets and critical to global infrastructure. There was very much money in helping Ukraine.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And yet, as soon as Trump took office they stopped helping ukraine. Your argument is shit, mate.

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Because Trump is a Russian asset and defunding Ukraine benefits Putin.

Your basic understanding of global politics is shit, mate.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, i thought it was only racism. My bad, cant believe where i got that idea from.

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s your lack of basic reading comprehension. See, she said “racism”, not “ONLY BECAUSE OF racism”.

See those extra words? They modify the context.

Oh boy, now I have to define context…

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh boy. If you they would have put that into their argument so that it wasn't shit 😄

The word you're actually looking for is xenophobic, not racism. Xenophobia explains the decisionmaking of states where the culture is at odds.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

I would say “interests at large” rather than dollars.

Ukraine is military strategic interest (nobody in Europe wants to have Russia to randomly decide to start a war with an EU country)

In Middle East (with oil) is dollars

In Taiwan is military strategic interest

On the other side of the spectrum? Myanmar, Gaza, random African conflicts, etc

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago (20 children)
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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that's the main reason. Racism is probably a factor, but the main reason is imperialism. Israel benefits The U.S. and NATO strategically. Even if Gazans were, say, russian-speaking Cossacks instead, I think the situation would not be terribly different.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

But imperialism IS racist at it's core though. The justification historically (and implicitly today) is these people are better off either dead or under our control, because they don't share our European bloodli- I mean values.

[–] Crampon@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

What was the motivation when the Aztecs or Mongolians did it?

The motivation is not ethnicity. It's resources.

Always has been.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 23 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is the West’s ally so the West backs Israel

Ethics are only used to draw support to your side, they don’t really exist

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 93 points 1 day ago (9 children)

she's not wrong, if it were white people that were being killed there would be more reaction

heck, trump made up a white genocide in south Africa just to make them look bad

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