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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A promising start, but a thousand transistors at 25 kilohertz puts it where silicon tech was 60 years ago, so they've a long, long way to go.

If it scales, they can use modern tech and know-how to accelerate their progress and they can get funding, maybe this will be viable in a decade or so.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I was thinking more about the availability of "molybdenum disulfide and tungsten diselenide" opposed to silicon, they don't sound exactly like Home Depot stuff.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

CPUs are not made in a home depot.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Fair point. From what I can tell, refined tungsten is actually an order of magnitude cheaper(!) than refined silicon, but molybdenum is over two orders or magnitude more expensive. ~300USD per ton, ~2000USD per ton and ~60000USD per ton respectively.

I assume that if this got up to scale industrially, savings could be made by recycling high purity molybdenum waste, but yes, it's not going to be cheap.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 hours ago

But material costs don't matter much in computer pricing.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

Modem transistors aren't just silicon though. The silicon is doped with various materials, presumably gallium, boron, arsenic, phosphorus, and cobalt, among other elements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_%28semiconductor%29

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A promising start, but a thousand transistors at 25 kilohertz puts it where silicon tech was 60 years ago, so they’ve a long, long way to go.

If you're talking about the desire to replace today's modern CPUs, sure. However, in the world of electronics there are lots and lots of support electronics and ICs that run way slower than 25kHz. All of this assumes the technology can scale for cost effective manufacturing yields at this current speed. If its both expensive AND slow, it will have far fewer use cases.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 23 hours ago

The article seems to imply that the intention is to replace silicon entirely, but agreed, there might be niches where it can replace silicon even if full replacement might be unrealistic.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like I'd drop it, and it would crack in half.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 14 hours ago

They say it's 2D so I would end up setting it somewhere and lose it because I can only see the sides it doesn't actually possess.

[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 2 points 22 hours ago

Linus? That you?