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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Neural nets are pattern recognition and repetition machines - nothing more or less.

If black people have historically been given harsher punishments by the criminal justice system (duh), any neural net is going to pattern match and print out a heavier sentence for a black person based on its training data.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the province was aware its use of the software could disproportionately target Black prisoners, but went ahead with it anyway

Yep, sounds about right

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

The Premiere named his daughters with the initials KKK. How many black Conservative MPPs are there?

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

It's a *feature*

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

...Because they could just blame it on the software.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago

So far every use of algorithmic policing that has been reported has shown only to exacerbate the conditions caused by systemic bigotry.

Even in Canada, I have to assume the system is working as designed -- the racism is deliberate -- until proven otherwise.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I still fail to understand why people act like Canada is a paradise compared to the US.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 24 points 2 days ago

Because "compared to the US" is a very low bar to clear these days.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

compared to the US.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they statement is honest then you are as dumb as we all think you are

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know man. Your country's genocide of it's native people went on way longer than it did in my country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples?wprov=sfla1

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canada closed its last Indian boarding school in 1996 and issued an apology for their cultural genocide.

Can you guess when the US did? If you guessed they are still separating Native Americans from their families you would be correct.

The US killed so many more natives it isn't funny. Canada generally respected the treaties they signed while the US wiped its ass with them.

I am not excusing what Canada did, but you shouldn't try to compare them to the US.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's also a paradise compared to living in a cess pit.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 0 points 1 day ago

Give it a few years. You'll have your own Trump, don't you worry.

[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You would imagine they would trial these programs to see if there are massive flaws with them but that is probably to expensive.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There's strong correlation in crime statistics for both severity and frequency of violent crime and being black

It is therefore not a surprise that feeding prisoner crime data, and not any race data, into a computer to determine prisoner risk has the same correlation between race and likelihood of violence

To reduce the rating based on their race would be discrimination by definition

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't seem to have read the article because the government admits that there are issues with racial bias and it's already attempting to mitigate that for indigenous people specifically, but not black people.

Whatever correlation may or may not be present should not be used to justify worse conditions. Worse conditions lead to worse outcomes so it becomes a bit of a self fulfilling issue. We do not know how these decisions are being made and that the problem. Even if race is excluded it could be using a proxy for race. There should be guidelines that apply to everyone or a panel that can be questioned and held accountable. AI cannot be held accountable in this way so it should not be making these decisions.

[–] darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and it’s already attempting to mitigate that for indigenous people specifically

That's literally racial discrimination and shouldn't be a thing.

Even if race is excluded it could be using a proxy for race

AI doesn't care about race. It cares about achieving the mission statement.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

You almost get it. So very close.