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Hi. I'm looking for a good code editor that doesn't have any AI in it at all. My problem is, I like modern code editors like VSCodium, but I think it has AI or at least supports it. I know Zed has AI and Zed is kind of complicated to use. Here are my requests for a code editor:

No AI or telemetry Built-in live preview for HTML Built-in terminal Extensions

Right now, I'm using Pulsar, but it has no live preview that I know of. Any suggestions help. I'm not a fan of notepad++, though. It's very complicated to setup and use. Thanks in advance!

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[–] Zeddex@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I don't know about VSCodium specifically since I use VSCode, but it does allow you to disable all AI features. Don't know about telemetry.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

I use VSCodium. I happen to like it pretty well, since it supports a niche language I use to mod games. I really like that it disables so many annoying features that Microsoft seems to think essential. But I wouldn't be opposed to switching to a new IDE if it seems more workable.

[–] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

If you're willing to go into the terminal based editor rabbit hole, I recommend going straight to helix, coming from vim/neovim in the past it's much easier to get into and maintain since it's batteries included and doesn't take huge dotfiles to configure it like you want, and the movement feels more intuitive to me than vim's

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago

Neovim so many plugins and customization you can look st chadvim or lazyvim plugins for it

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Vscodium

Free/Libre Open Source Software Binaries of VS Code. VSCodium is a community-driven, freely-licensed binary distribution of Microsoft’s editor VS Code.

https://vscodium.com/

[–] mik3dd0@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

I second this!

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

Should work with embedded webkit widgets for the preview.

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Neovim. No other editor comes close to it.

[–] mik3dd0@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

I also second this!

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Have you tried disabling the AI in Zed? There's a toggle in the settings to disable all AI features. I've disabled the AI and it's actually a really nice, responsive, clean editor. Just one toggle, and it doesn't re-enable itself. The whole "AI-native" marketing really put me off trying it, but it's now become my go-to IDE for when I'm working on a project where I want a more fully-featured IDE than Vim (my go-to for just editing text files eg standalone scripts, small projects).

If you don't want to do that, or if you try it and still don't like Zed, maybe Kate?

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Not sure about preview, but Kate?

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Kate's dope for everything, small notes, code.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm always surprised by its sheer power

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 11 hours ago

It does have preview, the plugin has to be enabled/may need some libraries installed.

[–] Jozzo@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I got markdown previews somehow so it can probably do HTML too!

[–] helix@feddit.org 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You can easily disable all AI features in Zed.

[–] dracs@programming.dev 7 points 14 hours ago

I was going to mention the same. Zed has a single global "Disable AI" option which works well.

[–] maxihuenu@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

not enough. we need ZERO a.i trash. Why need to waste developing energy in develop a.i shit? no need. i repeat: we need ZERO A.I trash in a text editor

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Gram, an AI free Zed fork, fits this perfectly.

As an other commenter mentioned, you can read their mission statement here: https://gram-editor.com/docs/mission/

[–] hasnep@lemmy.ml 28 points 18 hours ago (4 children)
[–] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 minutes ago

Looks like sublime text. How does it differ?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 14 hours ago

The mission page for gram, as someone unfamiliar with it until this thread, is genuinely a thing of beauty.

[–] farooqkz@realbitcoin.cash 1 points 11 hours ago

Thank you! Noted!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's great, even has a Helix mode for us Helix users!

[–] callmemagnus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Is what a thing? Helix?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Geany is quite a nice, simple editor. Very lightweight, open-source, and no AI.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

The line break system is weird and should be opt-in, not opt-out, but yes, otherwise, Geany is great! I've otherwise simply been using Xed on Linux Mint.

[–] _deleted_@aussie.zone 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

Not sure about live HTML preview, but I ended up picking Gram as well, on my search for AI-free software. (By the way, I found open-slopware a good resource for this.) Someone else already mentioned it in this thread, but I wanted to add some context. Gram is a fork of Zed, which is built for and with AI. It is therefore already tainted, if that's something you care about. However, I found the Manifesto neat. (It also has official support for Zig which is what I was looking for specifically at the time.)

Oh and I was also recommended Kate. I haven't gotten to try it, but it could be an alternative worth considering.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

!emacs@lemmy.ml !emacs@programming.dev
I've been using it for many, many years. C++, Bash, Python, LaTeX, Rust...

The setup and learning can take a bit but once you figure it out, you can move your config file across machines. You can define your own functions, define shortcuts per mode you're in and lots more. Works both in GUI and CL

[–] IanTwenty@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I'd like to say neovim but if notepad++ is too complicated then neovim definately is. There are 'distributions' that give you a setup ready to go e.g. Lazyvim but you're still going to have to fiddle with it sometimes.

https://www.lazyvim.org/

I don't think Lazyvim has any ai features out of the box.

If you are at all curious the 'Lazyvim for Ambitious Developers' book is a great way in and easy to skim through. Here's the chapter on ai which proves you have to turn it on to enable it:

https://lazyvim-ambitious-devs.phillips.codes/course/chapter-16/

I can't say for sure if the developers of neovim are using ai themselves for the codebase, I suspect they might be as they have made positive statements on it in the past. Love to hear if someone can confirm or not.

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Which operating system are you on? (Sometimes it's relevant, and you mention notepad++.)

On Linux, I like kate, but IDK if it has live html preview. I use it for Rust and general editing, not for web development admittedly.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I believe it does have HTML preview when using the document preview plugin and with kparts packages installed. When ive used the preview tool i think you can have a split screen view with one half the file and the other the preview, but ive not tested it with html.

I like Kate myself, its a good editor with support for numerous languages, and a decent session system and a range of plugins.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 5 points 18 hours ago

Built-in live preview for HTML

Only in electron based editors AFAIK. It requires an integrated browser engine, and electron already is an integrated browser engine so that makes it easy.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago

What do you need/use that you find in modern editors that you can't get in something like Emacs? While there are AI integrations for Emacs they are all optional.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Helix and Gram. Try em out. Gram even has a Helix bindings mode.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] Bell@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

+1 for pulsar