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[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 minutes ago

dang, I just bought FP5.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 48 points 1 hour ago

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Very strange how mine can somehow fit a 7000mAh battery, dual SIM + SD card slot and a regular jack. Hmm...

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 8 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works -2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

I guess, I will find out when the need arises. Hasn't happened in 4.5 years yet.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago

Are you a Republican? Because that really sounds like "mine works, so fuck everyone else"

[–] philthi@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

The to make matters worse, they've already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4 (which a friend of mine bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

Do not buy.

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

Your comment made me laugh! There’s no need to criticize the company if you’re having a bad day or don’t like it. It only takes a minute to check their website for spare parts. Most likely, it’s your local shop that’s out of stock, not Fairphone itself.

https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?category=4&filters=33

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[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? I exchanged multiple mails per day when I had a problem.

Also as others have mentioned, the parts are still available on their website.

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[–] faerbit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4 What's this then?

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Hmmm that looks like parts listings for the Fairphone 4 to me, why do you ask ?

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 hour ago

The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

philthi said this, LMAO!

[–] Stzyxh@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

couse the other guy said that the parts are not manufactured anymore

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[–] sherlockhomeless@lemm.ee 19 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean with stopped producing spare parts for FP4? They are still widely available

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[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 hour ago (8 children)

Of course they're gonna offer BT earbuds if there's no audio jack? Or did you want them included or something? A lot of people here are way angrier than justified.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Waiting for swappable OS. No need for android

[–] Stzyxh@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

there is a e/os version avaiable

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

e/os is still android, i think he means Linux, and other OSes ! ❤️

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

postmarketos has builds for the 4/5, and Fairphone has already submitted devicetree files for the 6 to the mainline Linux kernel: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20250625-sm7635-fp6-initial-v1-12-d9cd322eac1b@fairphone.com/

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