American right-wing, TYVM. Just over half us aren't that stupid, although I admit their number seems to be growing.
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Over half of Americans aren't anti-capitalist, please be real
I didn't say that. The meme is about blaming communists for capitalist problems. That's almost entirely a right-wing thing.
This part is technically correct, since both mainstream US parties and their voters are right wing
I mean not true the democrats also like to accuse Trump as being the "true communist" I would agree they aren't "left-wing" but then they and the republicans are much more than half.
I don't know... plenty of "left-wing" in Amerika are still blaming Russia for everything and also being paranoid about Communism.
Its because the americans misguidedly lump the neolibs in with the left, and the neolibs make up a big chunk of the nominally left party
The USSR collapsed three and a half decades ago and you MLers are still trying to conflate fascist Russia with communism.
Meanwhile, back in reality, blaming Russia has fuck-all to do with communism, let alone being paranoid about it.
Who the hell is saying Russia is communist? Certainly not Marxist-Leninists
Actually, over 40% of Americans, both Bidenites and Trumpites. At least that was the case in 2022.
Oh jesus...
Btw, it's interessing the difference (even if small) between those having a degree and those who don't and the age
Yeah, and even in the least wrong segment of the population of the whole poll (the young people), 28-31% think Russia is a communist state!
We're perfectly aware that Russia is capitalist, it gets no more credits than Germany for its communist past. The reason it receives critical support is because it's opposing the US, and the US hegemon falling is pretty much the gateway to socialism worldwide.
We're so clear about it that I don't even understand how you could possibly think we support Russia because we think it's still socialist?
The reason [Russia] receives critical support is because it’s opposing the US
From your link:
Critical support is supporting something while also being critical of its flaws. It is often used in the context of supporting bourgeois states that fight against imperialism or are under imperialist aggression.
The thing is, Russia is exactly the polar opposite of "supporting bourgois states that fight against imperialism" or being "under imperialist aggression." Those statements describe states like Ukraine, while Russia is itself also an imperialist aggressor.
You can argue that the US is also bad in that regard, but you sure as Hell can't argue that Russia is any better. Supporting Russia "critically" (which I'm also not buying, BTW: quite a lot of its support around her is distinctly uncritical) is doing nothing but advocating for trading one oppressing overlord for another.
We’re so clear about it that I don’t even understand how you could possibly think we support Russia because we think it’s still socialist?
Thinking that maybe you were still somehow confused about Russia being communist was being charitable -- giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you're saying that y'all knowingly support fascists, that just makes you irredeemably terrible people.
The thing is, Russia is exactly the polar opposite of “supporting bourgois states that fight against imperialism” or being “under imperialist aggression.” Those statements describe states like Ukraine
You think that a state that has invaded Iraq, Syria, Iran, and other places, and has been trying to formally join the gang of other invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan as 'fighting against imperialism'. You are silly.
Also, what do you think a state should do when the most prolific invader in the world - NATO - starts amassing troops near that state's borders, especially after conducting a coup d'etat against a neighbouring state?
states like Ukraine
y’all knowingly support fascists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations
Whataboutism.
The undeniable fact is that Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. That makes Russia the aggressor and Ukraine the victim in that conflict.
Whataboutism.
Seriously claiming that other people engage in "whataboutism" is just an admittance of one's own hypocrisy.
The undeniable fact is that Russia invaded Ukraine
After NATO self-admittedly kept pushing for war with Russia with Ukraine as its proxy.
That makes Russia the aggressor and Ukraine the victim in that conflict.
Attempting to join the most prolific invader in the world is an act of aggression, and so is pushing for war with Russia. I wouldn't say that responding to those makes a state the aggressor, but the people of Ukraine (excluding its leadership) are some of the victims.
"Erm sir it is actually a heckin whataboutism to point out that I have aligned myself with Nazis"
History started in 2022. I am very smart!
“Four months into this thing, I like the structural path we’re on here. As long as we help Ukraine with the weapons they need and the economic support, they will fight to the last person,” said Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.) early into the war, accidentally voicing what the war’s critics have often said about the war — that the U.S. will fight it “to the last Ukrainian.” Later, Graham called it the “best money we’ve ever spent.”
Are you capable of admitting that Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around?
Are you capable of admitting that the Ukranian government was engaged in an eight year campaign of ethnic cleansing?
So that's a "no," then. Thanks for confirming your bad faith.
Why do you guys always avoid this topic?
I'm the one trying to stay on topic. You give me a fucking straight answer first, and then I'll answer yours!
The revolutionary violence that swept Kyiv’s Maidan Square on the night of February 21, 2014 unleashed the forces of Ukrainian nationalism and, ultimately, Russian revanchism, and resulted in, among other things, the first full-scale land war in Europe since 1945.
In November 2013, Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych rejected the terms of the European Union Association Agreement in favor of a $15 billion credit agreement offered by the Russian Federation. Many in the western part of Ukraine had supported the EU deal, as it would have, in their view, secured Ukraine’s future within Europe.
But, as the Europeans, Americans, Ukrainians and Russians knew full well, the association agreement with Brussels wasn’t merely a trade deal. Section 2.3 of the EU-Ukraine association agenda would have required the signatories to:
"...take measures to foster military cooperation and cooperation of technical character between the EU and Ukraine [and] encourage and facilitate direct cooperation on concrete activities, jointly identified by both sides, between relevant Ukrainian institutions and CFSP/CSDP agencies and bodies such as the European Defence Agency, the European Union Institute for Security Studies, the European Union Satellite Centre and the European Security and Defence College."
In other words, the trade deal also included the encouragement of military interoperability with forces viewed, rightly or wrongly, by the Russian government as a threat to Russian national security.
In addition, the EU association agenda required Ukraine to put up barriers to trade with Russia. An alternative proposal put forward by Romano Prodi (former Italian Prime Minister and EU Commission president) would have allowed Ukraine to trade with both Russia and the EU but was rejected by Brussels.
And so, the U.S. lent its support to the post-Maidan government (and the Anti-Terrorist Operation, or ATO, launched in April 2014) against the largely, but of course far from entirely, indigenous uprising in the Donbas. Thus began the first phase of the war, which lasted until the evening of February 24, 2022 and cost 14,000 dead and 1.5 million refugees.
The "threats to national sovereignty" argument is complete and utter horseshit. The absolute undeniable fact is that Ukraine did not attack Russia until it was attacked first.
That nonsense is exactly like trying to argue that I had the right to shoot you because I thought you looked at me funny. It's just categorically dishonest.
Two-Thirds Support for genocidal Israel
Whataboutism.
14,000 dead and 1.5 million refugees
because I thought you looked at me funny
It’s just categorically dishonest.
Its crazy how you guys will hear some moron say "I heard communists believe this" and just immediately go "yup sounds true, stupid communists" with no investigation or follow up.