Everyone in here hating on philips head screws when old slot head screws are the true enemy.
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There's like 3 use cases for slot heads, and there they're worth their weight in gold. Everywhere else however? Fuck 'em.
Slot heads never wear out.
Phillips head are the Mercator Projection of screws. Great for their specific purpose that shockingly few people seem to know and bottom tier otherwise, yet widely used anyway.
Which one in your opinion is the best general purpose screw? Basically something that should be the default?
My philosophy of screwing is that it is always best to find the right screw for the job, BUT, more often than not, a torx/star 2-1/2in #8-10 ceramic coated screw is going to solve all your problems.
Torx, excluding TX27. Just use 25 or 30. For consumer devices or anything that gets turned by hand Pozidrive is okay, although it sucks if you're using a drill, and impacts fuck 'em up almost instantly
I use #8 x 2-3in Robertson construction screws for pretty much everything. been doing this for over a decade. hasn't failed me yet
there are times that a pan head is more suitable or you want a smaller screw, but I just buy the giant buckets of thousands of construction screws and then don't have to think about buying more. and it's 1/4 the cost as smaller packages
Interesting. Is it open source? Licensed? Patented by anyone? Sorry, I know nothing about screws, but it feels like a good rabbit hole haha.
Robertson Master Race
HA! Amateurs.
Looks like the next guys problem.
Hey!
"Hey bro, I saw that those greedy bastards skimped out on the metal parts. So I fixed that for you bro"
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Also plastic clips on laptops, monitors or any small electronic, pretty much every time I open up something with those clips one of them just snaps apart.
Guitar picks. Slip them in the most pliable section of the seam and slide them along. You want the pick mostly pointing up or down so that it slips through the "buckle" of those plastic clips and allows the two parts to slide loose. If the pic gets stuck, flip it the other direction, and the wide end works better than the narrow end.
That's different.
That is 100% international
And likely intentional
The problem with using phillips is selecting the correct size. If you have the correct size its much harder strip the threads.
Came here to say this. The correct size and depth bit on a Phillips is a thing of beauty and grace. If you get it the slightest bit wrong (pun yes) God help you and your offspring to 7 generations.
Also using good drivers that still have sharp edges.
Still prefer torx for anything more than drywall or door hardware.
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Robertson (square) is the best.
Americans just don't know how to screw.
American here. Robertson is the absolute goat.
At this point you're just asking for a yo mamma joke
My momma is Canadian and she don't want no inferior American bits.
Robertson is the supreme screw!
Because Philips screws were supposed to cam out, to stop overtightening on airplanes.
Maybe we shouldn't use Philips screws for non-aviation purposes.
I've read this was the justification after the fact.
Right but for aircraft we've got torque wrenches which can stop overtightening much more accurately.
The only reason they’re so common is because of Henry Ford. Ford wanted Robertson screws, but Ford also wanted to make his own screws in-house. Robertson wouldn’t license them, Philips would, the rest is history. Robertson screws are much more common than Philips up in Canada (where they’re from).
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Then there's the Japanese Industry Standard (JIS) Philips, which is different from everything else. Without a JIS driver/bits, the head will strip.
I'm all for Torx and External (Inverted) Torx screws.
Torx is great until you can’t really see the bolt in question and think you have the right bit but actually it’s slightly small and rounds off the bolt entirely.
It is a good idea in general though.
As someone who has spent far more time than I want to think about removing screws and bolts that other people fucked, Robertson is the second most popular fastener to get brought to me with Torx in hot pursuit.
Philips head screws that are messed up come in two types. Soft cheese metal versions and the insidious Japanese style that are just ever sooo slightly different and require their own special driver. And most of you can't tell the difference or even care.
Plus, Y'all buy cheap ass "turn screws" as the British used to call them. When you buy dollar store quality tools you deserve what you get and I don't feel sorry for you.
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Use better screws, don't screw around.
Quit screwing around! You all screw around too much!
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Use a battery drill with a torque limiter?
You can definutely put a torque limiter on your hands.
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