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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how many government officials, local and state, have been paid off to ignore public input, know they aren't getting reelected, but don't care because they've gotten enough to retire.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

In my county they changed tune on data centers 6 months before running for re-election and won re-election. People have short memories or never knew to begin with.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 hour ago

Thats just awful.

/s

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Ya know.....everyone always tries to say violence isn't the answer. It's things like this that tells me those people are stupid. Violence is absolutely the answer.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 3 minutes ago

If violence doesn't solve your problem, it's because you aren't using enough of it.

[–] ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 hours ago

the difference between violence as an act of aggression/dominance/establishing hierarchy, versus an equalizing force to regain autonomy/dismantle said hierarchy

[–] Forester@pawb.social 7 points 3 hours ago

The people that tell you violence doesn't work. Hold a monopoly on violence.

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are better answers. But the last 18 months have taught me that there is no way in hell the billionaire class will ever give up any of their wealth. Even when it in everyone's best interest.

If they won't play nice, don't expect the response to be nice either. Violence still isn't necessary, but they should be afraid!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

Violence still isn’t necessary

I disagree. Show me a time in history where a population is being oppressed, and then that stopped without violence.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 8 points 3 hours ago

Violence is the last resort, but that's where the billionaire dickheads are taking us.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I always see it like a game of tug of way. With 2 sides. there needs to be tension. If there is no pull at one of the sides then the other side just pull all the rope. These situations need a level of tension.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There's two sides but three teams; don't forget the centrists forever pulling for the right.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Just as managers and owners agreed to the compromise of unions in order to prevent the workers from dragging them from their homes and setting the factory on fire with them inside, governments should feel the fear of what happens when you treat people like shit and ignore their complaints.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 17 points 3 hours ago

A lot of people died to get the pittances we got from the ownership class. Decades of

  • labor: we want to paid in real money, and work less than 12 hours a day 6 days a week
  • owner: no
  • labor: then we're going on strike
  • owner, to the state: HELP
  • the state: sends police and troops to do violence to labor

The idea that peacefully asking for stuff on its own is effective is largely ahistorical. A happy myth sold by the people who would be receiving violence.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 4 hours ago

People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 46 points 5 hours ago

Good. Scare the fuck out of them.

[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

The only government that works for the people is a government that is afraid of the people

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's evidentially the only way, since the councils just don't care

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Violence can be an effective strategy.

Let them cool data centers with the tears of the Martin Luther King Jr that white supremacists invented.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@piefed.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Speak softly (peacefully protest) and carry a big stick (riot).

Martin Luther King and Malcolm X.

You need both.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Good. You weren't elected to fuck over your constituents