47
State subsidies, massive domestic market, stealing IP from Tesla, centralised manufacturing hubs, no environmental regulations or labour laws.
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2025
47 points (91.2% liked)
Technology
72360 readers
2817 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
At this point, Tesla needs to steal IP from them, not the other way round.
Yeah theyve leapfrogged tesla but they still stole IP to get started. Especially around manufacturing techniques.
State subsidies and a huge protected home market.
But to be fair, they really made the most of it. So absolutely also talent.
You left out “Uyghur slave labor”.
While you are rigth, it is not about that.
Tha article point out that they were able to fix an issue in mere six weeks. But the point is that the other brand they cited would have not done the mistake in the first place.
So yes, they could be faster and more flexible, but that speed and flexibility comes with a price.
I’m a software engineer, not a hardware engineer, but let me guess anyway: the article will imply that they’ve found some magical way to be more “efficient”, but it’s actually that they treat their people like shit and also sacrifice quality. Am I right?
They don't treat their people like shit, they treat them like slaves. In countries outside China at that.
I was going to say "because they're probably state subsidized" but your suggestion is better
Edit: looks like you're right lol
The urgent pace is baked into BYD’s structure. Taking advantage of China’s lower labor costs, BYD deploys about 900,000 employees, nearly as many as the combined workforces of Toyota and Volkswagen, to accelerate design and manufacturing. At its headquarters, BYD promotes a work-focused life through company-subsidized housing, transportation and schools.
They also combine that with skimping on quality ( admittedly a low bar these days, when even daimler uses cheap chinese interior plastic ):
Chinese engineers have essentially concluded that global industry-standard vetting processes are a wasteful pursuit of “excessive quality,” Han said.
Instead, Chinese automakers release good-enough vehicles quickly, with far fewer prototypes and a fail-fast philosophy mirroring Silicon Valley tech startups, industry executives and experts said.
This sentence makes no sense though:
The problem: The car had been designed for China’s smooth streets and slower speeds. Now, it had to withstand Europe’s winding, bumpy roads.
It's almost as if this was a propaganda article.
Wang spends many nights in Shenzhen employee housing, eats simple meals and works long days, sometimes in a BYD uniform, two BYD investors and others who know him told Reuters. Unlike many Chinese executives, who are chauffeured around, he often drives himself
I got it - they're quoting directly, that's why it reads like propaganda.
Their point about the streets may actually be valid. I don’t know anything about the roads in China, but many European cities are notoriously hostile to automobiles.
It was just a really strange comment. I mean yeah, road quality varies wildly ( jyst come to eastern europe if you wanna see some remarkable road craters ) but its a broad generalization and the quality surely it varies in china as well, no? I keep trying to imagine what roads were these vehicles designed for if "european" roads prompted a redesign.
They probably mean “we use cheap shocks.”
China was a really backward country 50 years ago. I expect that China has paved a lot of roads which are still in good shape. Europe by contrast has had paved roads for a long time and those older roads via normal wear and tear are wearing out. The question then becomes when do you patch, recover, or replace - this is in order of both cost and how nice the road is after. Give China a few more decades and their roads will become less smooth because it isn't worth the cost to make them perfect.