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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

While you're right to be skeptical, if they just wanted to collect data they would have an Android version. And their stated reason for not supporting it, is that push notifications on Android would require them to at store device-IDs, which they want to avoid for privacy reasons and being vulnerable to subpoenas.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

There are easier ways to get that data without having to trick people into downloading an app. Trump has palantir and Israel in his pocket. He already knows where they all are. The app just lets us all know where they are.

Trump doesn’t like playing a fair game because he can’t win those.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 22 hours ago

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

~~Did anyone else notice that you couldn't use this on an Android device because it it may put the people who use it at risk?~~

~~For shame Android~~

Developer may not actually understand how phones work

https://lemmy.ml/comment/19647328

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 289 points 2 days ago (6 children)

She said that there's been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just "trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from... communities."

Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 19 points 23 hours ago

Exactly. Basically "wahhhh this is making it harder for the kidnappers to kidnap people!! stop using the app they're just trying to do their jobs pls feel sorry for them 😭 "

[–] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I loathe and despise using percentages like this.

500% sounds super scary, but is meaningless without providing the baseline. If there was only one instance before and now there’s 5 it isn’t a significant increase but 500% sure sounds scary.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Worse still it's not even clear what is being discussed. It implied "violence" but that is a wide range from just pushing to serious shooting.

% can also be misleading when a scale is arbitrary. A temperature increase measured in Fahrenheit will be a rather different % when converted to Kelvin.

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Sadly I haven't heard of any ICE officers getting shot in the line of duty.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We all know that cops will try to charge you with assaulting them if you so much as shrug while being arrested. And they'll contrive situations just so they can do that. I'd say that makes their statistics meaningless without specific details and proof.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

ICE also keep getting caught on camera lying about being threatened before they start beating some innocent

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so blatant as if theyre using an instruction manual or something 🤔

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 15 points 23 hours ago

Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi

He's a fucking JEWISH Nazi - which is the worst kind of self loathing Nazi.

He'd be the first in the showers when the real Nazis come to town.

He's a pathetic loser.

[–] MrSelatcia@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Stephen Miller is exactly a Nazi

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Just following orders..."

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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 30 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the heads up.

Saw it wasn't on F-Droid and was going to ask for source page (to get through Obtanium), but looks like they're allergic to android and derivates. Appreciate you pointing to references.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

...iOS forces uses Apple services including getting apps through Apple...

Can't speak to the rest of the claims, but Android practically does too. If one has to sideload an app, you've lost 99% of users, if not more.

It makes me suspect they're not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2501/

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.

That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.

On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 51 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Glad others have pointed this out. Their "reasons" for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, called it.

Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it's closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You don't even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.

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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, but I think it's also because Republicans are downloading it and using it to spread fake ice raid claims, to confuse. So, I don't think the numbers are necessarily because people hate ice or whatever.

Guess we'll see.

[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 95 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"He's giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are," Bondi said. "...we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that's not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country."'

Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it's not constitutionally protected to say to someone "hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?" Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn't matter and laws are made up now, and they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They're just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We need a federated equivalent. Anything centralized can be stopped.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Federation is an overly complicated solution it's not required. It also wouldn't actually help, they can still take it off the app store there'd be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.

The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There's no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that's a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that's probably unnecessary

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius ... how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 17 hours ago

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

If the internet is down then I don't have access to the app store. Also if the internet's down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At the very least I hope it's hosted by someone outside the US so it's out of reach to the authorities.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For all we know the app might just be a honeypot itself

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is a genuine concern that we should recognize.

I'm about 99% confident it isn't, but considering it is the kind of caution we should all be exercising these days.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  • Is it open source? (No)
  • Is it's publishing and build pipeline open? (No)
  • Can anyone audit it? (No)
  • Does the author make unreliable claims of privacy? (Yes)
  • Does the author detail how data privacy and security is implemented? (No)

It's probably not a honeypot. But it's also likely to be negligent enough in implementation that it might as well be.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Good. I hope they're terrified. The same as their victims

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