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Is Trump really so uncreative that every name change he orders is just "replace x with America"?
His professor at Wharton,
"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had!”
Is this a real question?
Nah, not really
Lakema…
What’s lakema?
Lake Ma Ballz
LMAO
Great way to get people talking about Mapquest. Do they still give you printable instructions?
Yarp. Verified a moment ago. It's still easy as pasta too.
Is mapquest any good these days.
I see it used somewhat frequently on other companies maps for things like “here’s where to find us” or things of that nature.
Mapquest making Google and Apple maps look like simps.
Lake Epstein is a option
I wish more people took this shit as seriously as it deserves rather than making snarky jokes about it. This shit ain't funny.
100% I'm sick and tired of these news outlets immediately bending over for the cheato to say the name is officially changed. The office of the president of the united states does not grant the power to rename international bodies of water or the fucking kennedy center.
Can we PLEASE stop treating this fat fucking loser like a 5 year old pretending to be a dinosaur or superman and treat him like the 80 year old grifter, chomo, felon, national embarrassment he actually fucking is.
¿Por qué no los dos?
Take it seriously but also ridicule it.
“Lake eh”
Haha.
I'd be ok if they did this.
I'm partial to "Child Lakist"
It's not that MapQuest won't change it, it's that the name hasn't changed.
It does matter. If entire generation of Americans grow up with Gulf of America and Lake America, that will be the name of Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario in the US.
That seems like primarily a US problem
But Goog map added "Gulf of America" under the Gulf of Mexico while MapQuest retain the Gulf of Mexico, so even when it has changed for USA MapQuest basically saying they won't follow.
Again, not that they won't follow, it's that the name hasn't changed. Trump can do what he likes and he can probably force the executive branch to use the name in official documentation, but other than that this stunt means nothing
The name of something is not an inherent property of that thing. All names are assigned.
The distinction is that before Trump decided to hijack it for political purposes, the US government put a lot of thought and work into official names.
For big things like the gulf of Mexico, or lake Ontario, there shouldn't be a lot of confusion. But what about the little creek by your house? A series of inlets on a coastline? What if you have dozens of places with the same name; how do you differentiate? What if you have regional local names that differ from the name that outsiders use? What if you have competing names in general parlance? When you type it into a gps, where will it send you?
The U.S. Board of Geographical Names handled all these issues and more, and had been a trusted authority on place names, that mapmakers, businesses, and other governments all trusted to do a good job.
Still today, you can check out the GNIS and find out all kinds of cool stuff. Try searching for "Sugarloaf" to find all the mountains people named after a common thing, or "Denali" or "Washington"; you can find a lot of cool stuff on here, including alternate names for places. (https://www.usgs.gov/tools/geographic-names-information-system-gnis)
It is disgusting that the republicans are destroying years and years of slowly building trust and doing good work that helps all Americans because (check notes) it would be funny if he decreed the name were stupider?
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Hi, I work in the map industry. We generally don't get to decide what names to use for features. We apply what the local official name is (to simplify). That's why if you're in country A, feature X might be named something different than if you're in country B. You can imagine this would (and has) caused many conflicts around the world if we didn't display the local official name. (Switch your region via VPN and you can see this in action)
If Google renamed it to Gulf of America, no Google didn't, not really ... They just inserted the new official name for that feature according to GNIS.
And Google are a bunch of evil techdicks so of course they suck up to the orange fuhrer.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the United States can't change the name of a body of water that's shared between multiple countries. If it's not that, it still hasn't gotten any sort of congressional approval.
Edit: Lake Michigan is the only one that's fully within the US. The others are patrolled by both the US Coast Guard and the Canadian Coast Guard, both have the ability to arrest anyone on either side of the border. The state governments that border the lakes have some power over them, but they're held in trust for public use. The International Joint Commission resolves any disputes regarding them. I'm not quite sure what would have to go into changing the name of Lake Ontario, but it would at least require Canadian approval and US congressional approval, perhaps even approval from the state of New York and the province of Ontario. Oh yeah, this is also completely stupid and should under no circumstances actually happen.
Technically, there is no lake Michigan, only lake Michigan-Huron.
Interesting. So why exactly is a distinction made? Some political reason from the past?
It's simply convention. Although the Straits of Mackinac are 5 miles wide at the narrowest point, in relation to the size of the lakes it makes a significant demarcation. Sort of like the Straits of Gibraltar and the Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea.
Gonna be really hard to get Canadian congressional approval as we have no congress
I'm well aware. I meant approval from both the congress of the United States and the government of Canada. I just wrote it a little awkwardly.
I know, just messing
That sounds nice.
If Trump really wants to turn the screws, he can make it a requirement of federal contracts that all contractors use maps that comply with his infantile demmands.
I think you're kind of living in a pre-Trump reality where laws and procedures means something. It's a super bad idea to feel comfortable with this administration because something they want to do is technically illegal. Everything is up for grabs right now.
I partly just thought that going over what it would require could be interesting. You're right, he can try to make contractors do that. But that doesn't mean that citizens of either country are actually going to honor the name. Sure, Google and Apple will change their maps to suck him off, but nearly nobody is ever going to unironically call it Lake America. I live in Alabama, a deeply conservative state that borders the Gulf of Mexico. Even here, nobody calls it the Gulf of America. Odds are, he'll forget about this shit just as quickly.
You know, I never really considered automatic anti-vandalism mechanisms we have in place on OpenStreetMap, but they surely exist.
All that to say I think we're good on OSM too. lol
so annoying the local news mentions. this only applies in within the boarders of amerca. no. no it doesn't. executive orders are directions to the federal government. Its basicaly a memo to the agencies that they have to do that but no state or local government or private individual need follow it and I imagine most federal workers just avoid dealing with something now with the name of the lake. Once again I can't wait for the next president to make an executive order changing the name of donald trump.
