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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Short notice that kyivindependent.com is certainly not neutral on this.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

It's being reported by other outlets like the CNN and the South China Morning Post.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

TACO boy is playing right into the hands of Russia and China like a four year old wanting personal fame and profit.

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 23 points 15 hours ago

Hey well maybe that would have been a good consideration to make before tying themselves to the outcome by tacitly (and directly) supporting Russia for profit in the first place. When your fortune is dependent on the eradication of millions of people, by choice, you deserve to lose, and can go kick rocks for all I care. Slava Ukraine.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Sure you can.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

If this is true, the EU better be figuring out how to change that price calculus for them.

Which makes me doubt an open admission actually did happen, since China would understand the possibility for blowback.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I used to joke that China wants to trade Ukraine for Taiwan, now it is very clear: you shut up about helping/recognizing/arming Taiwan and we keep a leash on russia...until next time...

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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 175 points 1 day ago (12 children)

"Because that would be totally devastating to our plans for Taiwan."

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It still baffles me how people manage to justify China's position on Russia. Sure it's "geopolitics" but if you take a look at domestic propaganda in China itself it's certainly much more than that.

Check out videos of what Ukrainians deal with while living in China - its down right disgusting how brainwashed Chinese are equating Zelenskyy to the likes of Hitler in Ukrainian's faces and thsse are just normal people in apolitical contexts like nurses in hospitals. It's absolute insanity.

[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's just Chinese people in general on any subject. Anyone who's actually been to that country would notice pretty quickly that things are NOT OK. The Chinese population has never not known abuse and it shows.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I lived and worked in China for a year (Shenzhen). There was a palpable sense of brainwashing and/or an overpowering air of unhealthy patriotism there. Which made it stranger for me as I had Chinese friends and coworkers that seemed like decent normal people, we went to bars and drank and joked together. But whenever the topic of China as a country and its policies came up, everyone had a similar change in attitude and unwavering loyalty to the government.

I never felt that I was being targeted specifically, but I also never felt truly comfortable for a number of reasons. I’m glad I got to expand my horizons and experience a bit of what the country/city had to offer, I don’t think I would willingly go to live there again.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

This roughly aligns with my xperience, although if they really get to know you some will be more forthright about their politics. Many look longingly to what we have in the west.

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is a startlingly weak position for China to be in.

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[–] sujeito@kbin.earth 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Implying that the US could be too focused on Russia right now to help Taiwan defend against a Chinese invasion sounds like wishful thinking considering how little they are doing to help Ukraine.

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