Television

What TV do you like?

Re The Orville,

As I understand he's now at least written all the episodes for the next season, now it's just a matter of getting everything together (the equally hard part).

I thought he would stick with The Orville on a regular basis, but maybe once you achieve your dream it's easy to start looking at other projects.

Paramount called his bluff on the Ted live action series (he would only do it if they could have movie level budget for CGI Ted, and they did, for two seasons at least). So I think he jumped at that since it seemed like a limited time offer.

Plus now he's diving back into animation with a Stewie spin-off show and a Ted animated show.

I do hope we get Orville season 4 someday, especially with Star Trek coming to an end (for now).

Animes are way ahead in this department. They have been releasing those recap episodes for a long time.

On a personal note though, I avoid ongoing works like the plague, because you never know when you are gonna get hooked on a series that stays on a cliffhanger for like 10 years and yes, AoT, I'm looking at you.

I can't speak to the specific show you were thinking of, but it definitely could take that long. TV shows used to be leaner and lower budget, because they had such a fast pace. Nowadays each episode is not far off from a feature film on polish and sometimes length. If each episode is an hour, a 6 episode series is practically 3 feature films-worth of work.

I'd love to see shows go back to that old model of quicker runs with leaner budgets and less fx reliance. Not saying all shows should be that way, but it would be nice to have a mix.

I saw a study the other day explaining that people that learned how to swim at some point in their life are statistically less likely to drown.

Literally all you had to do was go to a Stranger Things subreddit/facebook group literally any time between seasons (2-3, etc.) and you'd have novellas-worth of proof.

I'm guessing the investigation was to determine how strong the effect is, to see how much money is worth spending to avoid the issue?

Don't forget the commercials, arhhh ye land lovers

more than 8 episodes. started in september ended around may. so like around 25 episodes. just give me 25 episodes every year of something like tv shows used to be. new season every year. it shouldn't be hard we had that for years before netflix.

It seems almost everybody is pissed off at them for cancelling something. It's not a novel thing to say at this point, but I don't bother with their originals any more.

Broadcast/cable TV had a schedule to fill. More than anything else, they needed to fill time slots. They planned around a calendar so annual seasons were only natural. That's also why they tended to have longer seasons, because it's easier to keep viewers coming back on schedule when they are already interested in a show. Plus it's cheaper to to make one long show than two short shows. It leads to brutal production schedules and massive creative compromises, but it fills airtime and that's what counts.

In other words, the economics of old school TV were about filling time while maximizing ratings and minimizing costs, which incentivizes making a smaller number of shows with longer seasons and regular releases.

Streaming has very different incentives. They don't care about filling a schedule, they just want you to subscribe. Every new show is a potential draw, and the more titles they have the more likely it is that one of them will appeal to you. They are incentivized to fill their catalog, not their calendar. As such, there's nowhere near as much pressure to churn out seasons like clockwork. If anything, they probably get more bang for their buck by waiting longer between seasons so that the release of each season is more of an event.

Hell, it doesn't even matter that much if it hurts the show in the long run. As long as they keep getting subscribers and have new shows (or popular old shows) to pull people in, they don't really care if an existing show dies.