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List of Best Rated TV Series as voted by the Fediverse
The problem is that there's a fundamental divide between having long, regularly running shows and high quality story-driven stories. IMO they should stick to having long runners with the more old school format, one season a year, possibly more episodes per season, even if the quality suffers from it, and then go all out on limited series that wrap in a single season, and treat those more like extra long movies cut into parts. Now they're trying to be somewhere in the middle and that's the result.
Shows overstaying their welcome has always been such a massive issue. Execs see how popular a show becomes and demand more ASAP, even if the show was never meant for it. It's pretty old now, but Heroes is such a good example. The writers wanted the show to follow an anthology format, mostly new characters and stories every season, but seeing the cult following, NBC wanted more of the same, despite the writing not being there to support it and it went downhill fast.
Yeah things need to have an end with these kinds of stories. Conversely though, there's definitely stories or concepts which work great in the long term, it's just that we need to accept maybe they won't feel like movies and just roll with the formulaic nature, nothing wrong with the monster of the week IMO.
"Can't wait to watch this in 10 years when it's finished"
Ya don't fuggin say... Could have told you that a decade ago...
It also hurts to kill shows that were really good and instead replace them with reality TV trash.
reality shows serves the lowest common denominators, no need to pay for scriptwriters or actors, low cost.
Yeah no shit, I stop caring after 2 years
Care? I've forgotten the series even exists after 1 year.
"Data suggests" as if it necessitated a deep study and wasn't very apparent already.
There's a certain impression among management that "apparent" isn't enough to make justifiable decisions. To make proper decisions, you need facts. The most obvious type of facts are numbers.
There is a common misconception that numbers and a story about them are required for good decisions. Worse, some seem to think they're all it takes.
"If you can't measure it, you can't manage it" is bullshit and MBAs were a mistake.
I think they are falling into the same trap as the quantitative fallacy that McNamara fell into. They only think in terms of numbers and nothing else. So they only care about what's measurable. You know what's not measurable? Art. Taste. Their entire business model. So of course a bunch of MBAs are going to fuck it all up because they are just extrapolating what was good in the past and what is quantifiable. Of course they have no over arching strategy and their tent poles end like a wet fart because they don't have any direction in mind and they can't stop fucking inserting themselves. I get the feeling that the execs at Netflix (much like most producers) don't even like the productions they are a part of. Like watching the McDonald's CEO try to eat a hamburger.
Not even just Netflix. My interest in a show like severance has completely dissipated. I could care less if the show ends in writing or ends by cancellation. It has taken way too long for this show to get more episodes, let alone wrap up. I do not want to rewatch the show every time a new season comes out just so I do not miss out on key details on the new season. I do not want to watch a summary at the beginning of each episode to remind me of those key details because I didn't rewatch the whole series before starting the new episodes. Oh and only for them to release 8 episodes per season at that!?!
Then take something like pluribis, really good TV show they were greenlit for two seasons by apple right off the bat. Yet only had one ready when it released? What bullshit is that? I am tired of getting invested in worlds only for me to have to wait years to MAYBE get invested again. What happened to the 25 episode per season days.... Fuck we had it good.
seems all these shows always ends with terribly written series finale anyways, because they took so long in between seasons they forgotten how the show went.
With Pluribus, the first season aired in November 2025, and as of June 2026 they still haven't finished writing season 2 yet. I have no idea why it's like that.
Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum, Slow Horses season 6 starts this week, and they're already filming season 8 lol.
New data from Domino's suggests that waiting 16 hours for pizza delivery did not please customers. More at 11:00.
"No shit" /thread
The shitty writing is also hurting Netflix viewership. As is cancelling shows that are well written and have a fanbase just because you have to pay the actors and staff more after 3 seasons.
that too, sandman had the comic to go on, but they still are pretty cringly written, not to mention change the characthers away from the source material. we know gwendoline was great, but she doesnt fit into the lucifer role. blood of zeus had issues too apparently.
New data confirms CEOs need data and cannot just think for 5 seconds like a normal human being
This
Its an obvious thing and I've stopped watching countless shows because it took years to get to the next season of just only 10 over produced episodes
Those that I did watch, it took me half of those episodes yo just get back into it again, and quite a few I just dropped out before I got to that half because of course you're completely out of it
Then the 10 episodes... Give me back the 24 45 minutes episodes, PLEASE. I want the filler bottle episodes as many of the best episodes are bottle shows. The few over produced episodes are typically lots of bowwow, fireworks and bling bling fun spectacles, but they're rarely the best episodes.
I don't watch a Netflix series that isn't 100% complete already, because they cancel fucking everything. It's not worth the investment.
Of course. Half the shows I've seen I just forget about before I second season comes out, much less a third. If the seasons were longer maybe it would stick in my craw longer.
The "release them all at once so they binge" strategy is also a big part nobody's talking about.
Yeah - I'll binge a show if I'm able because I have no self control, but it's not how they should be watched if you want to keep people engaged. You lose the water cooler talk about last night's episode.
My boss and I have similar tastes in TV, and we rarely discuss Netflix shows because they're flashes we burn through over a weekend. But when episodes of Star Trek or The Pitt are drip-fed to us, we end up talking about them every week.
The Pitt is a highly regarded show (I haven't watched the new Star Trek, so I can't comment), and HBO puts out quality shows time and time again (the wire, sopranos, six feet under, game of thrones, true detective -- except season 2, the leftovers, station eleven, tales from the crypt, veep, curb your enthusiasm, and yada yada). I don't let them drip feed The Pitt to me. I wait until it's all released and then binge it. I like it better that way. The quality is probably why it's water cooler talk. Drip feeding it is more about keeping subscribers for the shareholders than it is for the enjoyment of the viewer.
Now, do I believe The Pitt is as good as its praise? Not really, but that's another conversation. I will say that it has got better as the episodes went on, and has grown into nearly being deserving of its praise.
Netflix churns out steaming piles of garbage time and time again. Even their flagship series(es?) aren't that great. The last two seasons of Stranger Things, for example, were straight up turds -- as was the season where Eleven ran away. I'm not surprised you're not discussing Netflix originals. Obviously there are exceptions, tho they're exceptions (I enjoyed Space Force, what little we got of it).
But if you prefer shows to be drip fed, I'm glad for you -- I bet that method doesn't go away anytime soon.
It's also because a season is only 8 episodes and dumped all at once. You don't have time to digest it. You end up binging the episodes so other people don't spoil it for you, then you easily forget what happened. It's like Netflix purposefully designed their shows to be forgettable.