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Somewhere in a government building in the UK: We did it, Patrick...

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Good for them. Too many goddamn kids on the internet with dumbass ideas and shitty grammar and yolos and skibidy rizz, why back in my day we have to go uphill both ways to the internet cafe before we could argue with a strawman online

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So uh, choosing an instance was too complicated, right?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

What makes you think this doesn't apply to Mastodon instances?

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty concerning that a "western democracy" is doing this, because it gives cover for the next one and the next one.

It's easy to say "oh I'll just stop using such and such a service" but what happens when there are no more legal services to switch to?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

The UK has been in lock step with the US in terms of moronic voters and stupid leaders.

The UK is in Europe, but it's closer to the morons in Texas than Switzerland.

[–] geekwithsoul@piefed.social 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Headlines like this really need to put the emphasis on the cause, e.g. "UK Government Forces Bluesky to Roll Out Age Verification"

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

the KWS service they've chosen to use keeps far too much information

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they did this here, I'd just stop using bluesky. I'm 41. But I have no interest in verifying ages online. We've all seen how poorly companies handle intetnal security.

Just yesterday McDonalds had their entire database of applications compromised because someone tried the password 123456.

Bluesky would be dropped instantly.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't about age verification. It's about getting your ID and tying your (probably illegal but yet to be proven) online activity to it. Much like the firewall of China.

All wrapped up nicely in the disguise of "age verification"

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This pisses me off, governments mandating control. Would this affect Lemmy or any fediverse software one day?

it already does it's the reason why lemmy.zip isn't accessible in the uk (though it still federates to other servers)

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not feasibly, no. If a centralized platform like bluesky refuses to abide by the laws in a given country, their platform can be made inaccessible in that country. Trying to do that to countless activitypub-compliant servers wouldn't be practical since you van just hop to another server.

Do you think they won't try? I mean both the Tory and previous Labour admins tried to ban encryption.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the UK we're talking about, absolutely no one in government knows how to block anything. Seriously every time they block something I just use one of those crappy free VPN plugins and get around it. Basically I'm only looking for magnet links anyway.

You don't even need to keep the VPN on to torrent the file. It's so stupid.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I have seen some people in UK (on reddit) complaining about ISP sending notices when torrenting w/o a VPN.

"why has our userbase in the uk cratered but our userbase in germany skyrocketed?" - some bluesky dev looking at google analytics

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Canadian Senate Bill S-209 aims to do the same in Canada. These idiots really want our data so bad.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same in Australia. From memory the law has already passed, it’s just got a delay on it to give companies a chance to implement it.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to having a good excuse to delete most of my accounts and move entirely to decentralised platforms.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just hope they (Facebook and friends) give you the choice to delete OR verify those accounts and not require verification to delete it.

You would be surprised what you can active with spamming angry emails

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the information.

I found this specific clause very ... porous.

Clarification — commercial purpose 6 For greater certainty, for the purpose of section 5, an organization that incidentally and not deliberately provides a service that is used to search for, transmit, download, store or access content on the Internet that is alleged to constitute pornographic material does not make available pornographic material on the Internet for commercial purposes.

So... I guess Bing will once again be my goto incidental indeliberate porn search engine. And reddit. And Lemmy.

https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/bill/S-209/first-reading

Surprisingly, a conservative senator had a fairly well reasoned, and cautious, (although still supportive), response speech.

https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/451/debates/008db_2025-06-10-e#66

It still has a long way to goto get through senate committee and house readings and committees and all that. Still, might be a good time to scrape all the porn.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Look at Bill S-210 from the last Parliament, it made it to 2nd reading in the House. There is cause for concern.

I appreciate your dive into the topic though. Michael Geist has more info on his website.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where’s that federation?

And how would this fit in? Are they just going to build a bunch of excuses into the platform, and then claim it’s now impossible?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This is mandated by UK law. If you created a node so that UK users can bypass this, you would be doing something illegal. You'd probably get defederated.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 0 points 22 hours ago

Fuck this shit

[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I haven't even verified my email with Blue. This would be more than a deal breaker.