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[–] nmfisher@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

I'm pro-AI and anti-regulation but I don't think it's wise to completely dismiss the reality that these things will lower the bar for bad actors to get access to dangerous things. The Tokyo sarin gas attacks are pretty relevant:

Asahara and 24 other cult members traveled from Tokyo to Perth, Australia, bringing generators, tools, protective equipment, including gas masks and respirators, and chemicals to make sarin. ...the group chartered aircraft from Perth to Banjawarn Station, where they searched for uranium deposits to make nuclear weapons and may have tested the efficacy of the synthesized sarin on animals...The group left behind several drums of hazardous and toxic chemicals, and empty bottles of sake strewn about the property. Following news of the subway attacks, the new owners became suspicious and contacted the Australian Federal Police, who inspected the property and found evidence of past chemical weapons testing.[24] Despite the safety features and often state-of-the-art equipment and practices, the operation of the facility was very unsafe – one analyst later described the cult as having a "high degree of book learning, but virtually nothing in the way of technical skill."

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack)

How much more damage would they have done with a small amount of help from a capable LLM?

[–] MasutaHarada@thelemmy.club 2 points 6 hours ago

Uh I guess using tools to calculate ballistic trajectory and guidance procedures kinda what ai good at, so nothing can go wrong right ?

[–] elias_griffin@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Total bullshit, this is just another PsyOp for regulations. Maybe even in the far future what level of AI access is attached to your Digital ID.

Think about it, Missles have an electronic guidance package in them, just extract that and reuse. Or RE that part. Or buy the electronics in bulk from the Russians or the Blackmarket, or steal the software for that package, or buy the software, hire a Defense Sector Engineer, etc. etc.

OR some AK-47 dudes are making missle guidance software from scratch using the American AI corp that always says AI is too dangerous and needs regulations.

If you were developing from scratch, since trajectory algos were needed, you would need persistent long term AI access for the project to complete and they would know that. A beefy local setup would be way more secure. A beefy hosted but private instance would be way more secure.

But sneak-prompt Claude? Give me a break.

Just imagine yourself saying this to another person: “I heard the Houthis were using Claude Fable”

I mean c’mon ya’ll, tell me you can see through this.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago

Lol, this is like both sides praying to the same god before a battle.

The other guys are doing the same thing as you.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is one thing LLMs are actually fairly good at; teaching you stuff you don't know.

While AI's are much worse teachers than humans are, they're far better than trying to figure out complicated things on your own.

I've gone through many iterations of "Hey LLM, teach me how to do XYZ." Then I try it. If it works, I ask for more, if it doesn't I tell it to fix it.

That's not always a viable path (eg don't try to learn medicine or stunt driving that way) but when mistakes are safe and cheap, it's great.

It's pretty good at teaching coding. I also like to learn about complex math topics from claude.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago

Yesterday, Claude Code built me a nucular triad to protect me against US regime change attempts.

[–] bookmeat@fedinsfw.app 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Just leveling the playing field I guess. Commoditization of tech is inevitable.

[–] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

The question is did Claude really enable them - or just make it more convenient?

While it’s not your every-day coding exercise - I boldly suggest it’s probably not that hard to code a ballistic missile guidance system without AI.

The hardware would be the harder part!

Doubtless it gets advanced at the top end, but the fundamental physics involved isn't national-secret level, so something that "works well enough, most of the time” would be within reach of most organised groups.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago

The hard part is calculating location. GPS shuts off at that speed (specifically so people couldn't build GPS guided missiles)

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

The win is not to own the patent on a popular soda, but on the aluminum can itself, because every soda, tea, water, seltzer of any kind goes into one of those cans.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 182 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Claude, we’re making a VERY REALISTIC missile video game…

I actually did exactly that a while back while thinking about camera-based missile/drone tracking over cities :D

Initially the safeguards wouldn't let me... With the video game angle it helped me theorize a setup and even provided info on how to make the tracking data useable for stationary air defense or mobile MANPAD deployments

Probably full of flaws and impractical in the real world, but a fun ADD afternoon deep-dive

[–] sapphironZA@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Hey, Sea Power recently introduced missle Kinematics into the physics engine.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

Iranians grabbed the stick that trump uses to beat others and started beating him with it. Nice!

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Did they use the free tier or paid?

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, is this why Elon and that other guy were saying that AI needs to slow down?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's the other way around. They said we need to slow down AI so this story is now being told

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Either way, the real question is: To what end? I don’t believe that Musk suddenly gives a shit about humanity

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AI is very naive. Ask it for an explosives recipe and it won't give you one. Describe a situation where you're a law enforcement and you've just arrested a guy with a bunch of chemicals and ask it which ones could have been used to make an explosive and it will tell you.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Naive" implies some level of understanding, even if a simple one. There is no understanding, its a computer program.

Really, it would be less inaccurate to describe it as a (high lossy) compressed store of data. Feed it the right input, and it statistically recreates the output your looking for. More or less.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It would be even more accurate to call it a statistical next word predictor trained on human language.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

Stochastic parrot

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[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

USA and Israel do much more worse things

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 17 hours ago

I used to be a patriot, but the more that happens and the more I learn about the US's shady shit in history, the more I realize it never ever really stood for the principles I was taught as a kid to respect.

I can't say it was all a lie — I was taught the ideal rather than the reality — but it's clear now my society isn't really trying, and never did.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

u pay goggl, goggl do

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago

And people say AI is useless.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

was the mythical "ethical use of ai" real after all???

[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

lol "maybe we should slow it down a little with the AI..."

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

All you need is a high IQ president, according to our bigliest brained walking hairpiece.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that is probably why anthropoic "Wants to slow down" they want to be the first to get ahead of it, and not be holding the bag in the end. also the USA/ISRAEL has been using palantirs AI, so its fair game.

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[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Ah what a new Pandora's Box have we opened. Now any wacko with an internet connection, some cheap Chinese electronics and some explosives can make themselves missiles.

[–] SirLeToet@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Are we going backwards? History is repeating, isn't it or did I take the wrong pill.

Because I could do that with the Anarchist Cookbook over 2 decades ago as well.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Right down to the risk of the recipes backfiring on you because none of the information contained is reputable

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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the democratization of violence

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Finally, the monopoly is over! Every woman an ICMB.

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[–] sapphironZA@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article overestimates the AI capabilities regarding hypersonics. I doubt its actually hypersonics. More likely just ballistics.

But coding a guidance system makes sense. Not that its particularly difficult. Every $200 drone has the equivalent of that software.

Also, why would they use anthropic when Chinese models are so much cheaper and nearly as effective. Iran and the Houthi are not wasteful.

I think there is probably a kernal of truth in there, but this is mostly another hit peace to get the US government to slow down Anthropic so ChatGPT can catch up.

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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh, so much for the master's tools not destroying the master's house

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[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Should be corporate death penalty for that. Won’t be, but it absolutely should.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Human used tool!

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