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I'm a cis male and I believe in the importance of feminism, but I hesitate to call myself a feminist because it seems like there is a presumption of understanding women's experiences as if I was part of the Me Too movement. In some binary sense given how hateful and shitty men can be I'm absolutely a feminist, but I wouldn't declare myself to be one. What is your standpoint?

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[–] quail@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Yes 100% bc the literal definition of feminism is the equal treatment for all genders. I don't go around just telling people that. They can probably just tell I am bc I'm not shitty to a specific gender...

[–] mlfh@lm.mlfh.org 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was raised with Gloria Steinem's definition of feminism shaping my understanding, and have called myself a feminist since I was a child:

"A feminist is anyone who recognizes the equality and full humanity of women and men."

A more modern and inclusive version of that same idea, adopted by UN Women:

"Feminism is the belief that everyone, regardless of gender, should have equal rights and opportunities."

Feminism is a very complex grouping of movements and ideologies, but I think "membership" within them is very simple: if you believe in equality regardless of gender, you're a feminist.

[–] 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This raises the question whether feminist is the right word for those definitions. Humanist, maybe?

I'm not trying to "all lives matter" the situation – the history of the treatment of women warrants specific advocacy. But I think of a feminist as someone who (regardless of gender) is actively an advocate for change, not just someone who believes in equality.

That's the connotation I have for the word anyway. Clearly UN Women are a more authoritative source, and they specifically use the word "belief," so my connotation seems to be wrong.

[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

What's different to me is it's feminism not femalism, in that feminine doesn't tend to mean women specifically. I would actually argue it's mostly used as a modifier of explicit non-women, and is, in a roundabout way, directly about men and anything unassociated with women as well.

As if to say "this isn't about women, it's about the opposition to non-manliness that exists in the world".

Like a white person is not black, but a man can be feminine. That's not to say black issues aren't pertinent to white people in a similar way (if one of us is not free, none are free, nonblack people demeaned for cultural blackness, etc), but it's an identity that can be wholely intrinsic to a man.

Oh, and another point you bring up I think is interesting is the distinction between holding the belief and directly or strongly acting on it, and should we consider a believer or passive actor as non-ideological? I think that comes down to a No True Scotsman sort of mindset.

Kind of rambling and pedantic, but I like to think about the little details.

Edit: Actually, the more I think about it, the more it kind of is the same as BLM, and I think even just holding the belief is important.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would say yes, but the term is much less often used today than in the past and some people have very strange notions of what it means. I don't think I've ever had the need or opportunity to use it to describe myself, even though I would fit the reasonable definitions.

[–] nore@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If Feminism is equality between genders, then yes, I am a feminist.
But if Feminism is unconditional trust towards women, then no, I'm not a feminist.

In my experience people who call themselves feminists often put women above men, and will deny any criticism towards them because they're women, and women never do anything bad.

[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Was going to say essentially this. It can really feel like the most outspoken feminists have a 'women good, men bad' mentality (of course many men are equally deranged).

The injustice towards women is absolutely greater, but look at health and happiness metrics and it looks like men are much worse off, and those two points are very much intertwined, a lot of cause and effect both ways (just my opinion and how I've made sense of everything). I think there's probably no such thing as womens problems or mens problems. Only human problems that bounce around and affect everyone.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

My interpretation of it equals to same standing. Both in duties as well as in wages.
A woman should get the same wage regardless of if they get a child or not.
Same Job? Same output? Same wage!

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[–] synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Hard yes. If you believe in equality and justice what the fuck else would you be?

Though, I suppose there are those that don't... They can fuck off

[–] userse31@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Would you call yourself a feminist?

Yes.

Anyway the "shaming men for being feminists"/"only women can be feminists" thing is absolutely a thing the fascists have peddled to cripple feminism.

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my humble enby opinion you can call yourself a feminist if you believe in equality between genders. There are many flavours of feminism and they often contradict each other. You will never be a perfect feminist in every feminists' eyes. And you shouldn't try to be.

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[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago

I had professors ask us to raise our hands if we're a feminist, and usually every young man did. This was in the Obama administration, before the right became so fascist, but still. We don't expect you to have an equally deep understanding or to be familiar with academic feminist works. We just expect you to believe women are equally valuable individuals, who have the right to pursue their own happiness, live their lives how they want to live them, and be supported by their community in their health, wellbeing, and pursuits.

Absolutely, but I also think it's not enough to just say you're this or that, you have to act on it. And Imho a lot of people's feminism starts and ends at declaring themselves feminist.

[–] ready_for_qa@programming.dev 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

So many in this thread confusing feminism with egalitarianism. We have different words for a reason.

I am an egalitarian because I believe everyone is and should be treated equally.

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[–] wizbiz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

In shorthand, it just means you want equality. It's practical and makes sense that everyone takes this stance. We should all be feminists.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woman here and we could use more male feminists

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From your perspective, is there anything in particular you think would be helpful to see from male feminists?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yes, of course. I don't feel the need to lead with it unprompted because that's not where I focus my attention in terms of advocacy, but:

  1. Anyone who isn't a male chauvinist is a feminist by process of elimination
  2. As a bicycling advocate, feminism comes with the territory because biking was a big part of the women's lib movement back in the Victorian era. (Quick explainer, deeper dive)
[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I hesitate to call myself a feminist because it seems like there is a presumption of understanding women’s experiences

Being a woman is the only thing that gives someone access to women’s experiences, but being a woman doesn’t automatically make someone a feminist. Neither thing presumes the other.

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[–] orenj@leminal.space 15 points 1 day ago

Yes. Even in the most cynical light, standing with women is within my own self interest because my rights will surely erode alongside theirs. But also i like women and am disgusted with how they are treated socially and economically, and want that to change for the better. So a feminist i am.

[–] majster@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

No. I think every sane person is against sexual harassment. Term has become so broad and there are many things under that label that I disagree with. And because its so broad and popular it has attracted all sorts of slimy politicians to it.

My eyes roll 720 degrees when I see prolific feminists addressing EU parliament and taking photos with all sorts of celebrities and politicians. At the same time there is loud silence when the most high profile sexual scandal comes out that involves one of the top politicians in the country. And the rest of "feminist" nomenclature just rolls with it domestically and internationally. Bunch of spineless politicians.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah. I wouldn't bring it up as a non sequitur but it's pretty important.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know.

My concern was always about showing respect to others, regardless of gender. I want for others what I want for myself.

I grew up surrounded by womens and, as a kid, I heard horrible stories about men behaviour but also heard countless dismissals from women to women about those same male behaviours.

As a teen, I became so concerned of my existence as a man, I went so deep into neutral and non threatning territory I had girls telling me I was being flirted with because otherwise I wouldn't notice nor correspond. I was quick to point out bad attitude/behaviour from guys towards girls as well, which did not make me popular with my peers.

As an adult, I started working under the supervision of women. No concern, no friction. I did became extremely aware how women would easily create and maintain terrible and damaging relations between them, for futile reasons. Even today, where I work at, where the majority of responsability roles are women, the way even polite conversations are held are laced with tension.

I reached a point where I act in accordance to my conciousness. I loathe disrespect, I get revolted by hearing anyone talk less of others. And I am learning to call others on their words and actions, regardless of gender.

I do recognize a lot of violence, of all kinds, is still enacted upon women because they are women, solely, but I am also aware a good deal is still dismissed and even abided by other women.

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[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago
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