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Trump: *shoots America with tariffs*
MAGA: why didn't the liberal minority in Congress stop this?
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2025
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I understand that this is sarcasm.
But you just watched Democrats hand over their best leverage by opting not to shut down Donald's government and voting with Republicans, so, they're not entirely wrong. We don't have legitimate opposition. We have a minority party performatively putting up a false pretense at opposition, sitting back, and watching their stock portfolios soar.
by opting not to shut down Donald’s government and voting with Republicans
What are you talking about? Are you talking about a specific bill? Which one? All Dems voted against the 'huge hideous bill' (budget bill). Dems don't have the power/votes to 'shut down Donald's government'.
Can't pass a regressive tax bill if the government shuts down.
Democrats aren't powerless. They're complicit. The BBB was only possible because they made it possible.
Ok. You said "But you just watched", so I thought you were talking about the most recent catastrophic legislation, which is why I asked which bill you were talking about. Schumer's a cowardly piece of shit and could have used the only chance dems had or will have, because the other cowardly pieces of shit would have followed his lead and voted against it if he would have.
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So sick of conservatives breaking shit like children and then demanding liberals clean it up.
So sick of conservatives breaking shit like children and then demanding liberals clean it up.
So sick of the stupids breaking shit like children and then demanding normal people clean it up.
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"I keep punching myself in the face! Why is Joe biden not stopping me!?"
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Post Title: Trump announces 30% tariffs on Mexico, EU starting August 1st
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agk927 Moderate Conservative -189 points 17 hours ago
It'll make us some money. I see no issue here
akbuilderthrowaway Heinlein 415 points 16 hours ago
... you do realize Americans pay the tax, right? This is a consumption tax on American for foreign goods. Other nations are not paying this tax. You are. This is a tax on Americans.
agk927 Moderate Conservative -280 points 16 hours ago
He wouldn't do it if it hurt us. Keep listening to the misinformation. There's 2 sides to every story
akbuilderthrowaway Heinlein 321 points 16 hours ago
Misinformation? Dude. Seriously. Open your fucking eyes. Importers aren't going to eat 25+% taxes out of the goodness of their hearts. It's going to get passed on to consumers.
I can call a spade a spade. Trump's tariff policy is awful. You can't, on one hand, spout out rhetoric about lowering taxes and then pull shit like this.
He wouldn’t do it if it hurt us
lol
i work for an importer. My family are all college educated. I still have to explain this to people who have business degrees who should know better. The single most important thing I do at work is make sure the taxes and tariffs are paid before the shipping container gets released from the ship.
Is there any substantial decline in the imports in the last 6 months?
not the same person but i work in TLSC - variously, yes, in general people are doing feast and famine to import when tariffs get paused, and don't when they're not
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Yea, I work in booze importing so we have been hit hard as many are giving up drinking (not criticizing that choice only stating a fact) and many others can no longer afford alcohol regularly.
I often think the world does not need more people with MBA's.
Self aware wolf
Im hearing: The other political party needs to stop our party, its being crazy ... this is why we did not vote for the other political party, so they can save us ... or something.
I'm hearing "holy shit, how are those dipshits so ineffectual? Why dont they use any of their power when they're the minority like mine does?".
The answer is SCOTUS is compromised. They will favour GOP every time.
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Pretty sure he's doing tariffs specifically because they aren't a tax. They aren't collected by the IRS, they're collected by Customs and Border Protection, which is a division of the Dept. of Homeland Security (just like ICE). And because the head of the DHS is such a loyal stooge, whatever god-king shitstain says goes
I think it comes down to 2 parts, one being that tarrifs is what were used prior to income tax in the U.S., the time when "robber barrons" thrived and could grow their wealth easily. So the heritage foundation is trying to drive down income taxes and reintroduce tarrifs so they can legally make as much money as possible while not having that money they pull in pay for America's well being. The second I believe is that the money starts in a separate pile, and ultimately goes to the treasury still, but previously since that "pile" had far less in it before it will look like the government is collecting a lot more money when directly comparing that pile to that pile over than last 50 years. So he can say he increased our revenue by bolognanumber% to show he is doing well, while ignoring that higher costs decreased purchases which in turn decrease states income from sales taxes. So states will make less, and be more dependent on the federal government. Which if the states don't fall in line, the federal government can/will disperse funds unevenly to states who don't lap the federal governments balls.
So it comes to a game of taking from the working class and states money/rights as much as possible to keep them fully dependent while growing insanely rich, but not pissed off enough to rebel, or if they do.. not have enough resources to be able too.
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Letting Trump run the country into the ground is the best way to get rid of the MAGAzis.
No, because they'll immediately vote conservative the next chance they get anyway.
No amount of suffering will cure the vast majority of these people. They will be licking the boot even as it crushes their skull in their final moments.
The billionaire disease remains, though.
Accelerationism has never proven to be an effective means of combatting conservatism.
Ooh! There was an episode of the Past, Present, Future podcast a couple of months ago that touched on this very subject. Tariff policy was set by congress up until the Smoot-Hawley act, which was considered such garbage that they decided that it should be left to the executive.
Back when it was a congressional power, it was also the source of some of the worst horse-trading, as representatives from rural areas would seek protection on agricultural imports (with low tariffs on imported machinery), while representatives from manufacturing areas would seek to lower food prices and increase the cost of imported manufactured goods.
Edit: Not saying that handing it to the executive is the best plan, as we can see by what's going on now, but letting congress do it was also problematic. It's funny how a lot of us grew up with the idea that no/low tariffs are the natural order, when it's actually been a fairly short-lived anomaly in historical terms.
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The convoluted hill these morons made for themselves has actually been really satisfying. I hate these people and it’s good to know that it’s nothing but a total fucking mess inside their dumb little heads
Even the MAGAs are frustrated with democrats doing NOTHING. Even they know this is bullshit!
What could they realistically do, when Trump controls all branches of government from Congress to the Supreme Court? It can be argued that they should have shut down his government in March, when they had the chance to reject the spending bill - but what can they do now?
What could they realistically do
How many times have they filibustered actual legislation or appointees since trump took office?
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Both conservatives and liberals don’t want people discussing how easily the Dems could put a stop to this, and that they’ve been covertly participating in all of it.
I'm neither but I'd love to hear how you believe Dems can put a stop to these tarrifs? It's either A. Presidential power (which I don't believe it is) or B. Congressional power (which is Republican majority)
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