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Sideloading Android apps will become such a hassle that the practice will effectively die.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 117 points 4 days ago

~~Sideloading~~ Installing

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.world 94 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Something else that I only found out from comments on another thread about this is that once you start the 24 hour timer, you have to allow unverified apps within one hour after the timer stops. If you miss this one hour window you have to wait a full 24 hours again. And it will not give a notification when the 24 hours is up, you need to set your own alarm.

EDIT: found the thread where others are talking about having to wait an additional 24 hours after missing the one hour window https://lemmy.world/post/51966349/25850937

To clarify - the one hour window is how much time you have to turn on the setting after waiting the 24 hour timer. As in, you have one hour to push this button. If you miss this window to turn the setting on, you have to request to turn it on again and it resets the 24 hour timer.

Once you turn the setting on you can select the option to turn it on forever.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This needs to be posted everywhere on lemmy before it happens.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Once you turn the setting on you can select the option to turn it on forever.

I have to follow the hilarious procedure only once on each device?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Until Google decides otherwise, yes.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can survive it once. I am sure that I can.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

day 274. fuck it all. i missed it again. i haven't slept in weeks. i haven't seen or talked to another person in i dunno how long. i've been chained to the radiator next to a power outlet ever since a low battery fucked my chance back on day 47. i'm almost out of the food i can reach from the pantry. the dry pasta isn't as bad as it sounds. i've only chipped two teeth from not waiting long enough for it to soften. it hasn't rained in a week, so so cup sitting on the window ledge hasn't been filled. i think a bird shit in it yesterday. the stench from the shit in the corner has finally faded. or perhaps i've just grown so used to it it doesn't bother me anymore.

[–] guillem@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On Zdnet it says "Now the user is ready to install apps from unverified developers, and they’ll also have the option to enable the approach for seven days or allow it indefinitely." What I understand is that it's a one-off thing, am I missing something?

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I just did it. After the 24 hour timer you have to answer a question - turn this on for 7 days or turn it on forever. If you turn it on Forever its one off. I assume if you do t for 7 days only you have to go thru the 24 hour waiting period again if you want to turn it on again.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

Can confirm. I restarted the phone and waited for the 24 hours to be over. Forgot about it because it was a day later and life. By the time I did remember it was too late and I had to restart the phone all over again. So stupid.

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 81 points 4 days ago

Installing* Android apps

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

the company’s analysis found sideloading is responsible for “50 times more malware from internet-sideloaded sources than on apps available through Google Play.”

Yeaah, sure...

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I never heard of grandmas side loading apps... but plenty clicking a link to the playstore and getting all kinds of garbage... 🤔

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

All adware bullshit I cleaned from my mom's and relatives' phones was from the play store

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

I just got a new phone recently. Android installes games on your new phone like crazy. It's not always the users fault now.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

It really depends on how "malware" is defined.

Also, the sentence is either wrong or outright malicious. "Sideloading is responsible for ... from internet-sideloaded sources..."

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Every savvy user will make this the first thing they do on a new Android phone.

As an iPhone guy — say what you will about my savviness — it’s the first thing I’d do on a new Android phone.

But I don’t want a Pixel, I want that new Fairphone. In green. I just don’t have $650 laying around to piss away on a phone.

[–] FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you buy a fairphone you can select a non-stock Android being preinstalled, these allegedly are not affected by this change as far as I understood it.

I knew there was a custom firmware option, but I didn't know you could select it from the factory. That's neat.

[–] drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I am waiting with bated breath on some Linux phones in the pipes

[–] prex@aussie.zone 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

surely you've seen iphone ?

for years i was raging against people getting Iphones as any popularity of closed ecosystems would just encourage google and here we are.

[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Literally WHO ASKED FOR THIS

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Billy O'Nares

[–] guillem@aussie.zone 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This mechanism, which Google calls Advanced Flow, won’t be part of the open-source element of Android, but will instead form part of the closed-source, proprietary Google Play Services platform.

Graphene is safe for now, then, right?

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago

Yes, anything without Google spy services, aka play services, will be fine.

And even if you have Google spy services installed on graphene, it is in user mode, not admin mode, so it can't control that.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure graphene explicitly stated they would never allow it to affect them, and they don't ship the closed source parts of google's android stuff.

No idea if it will affect installing google play apps on a graphene phone though

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago

It probably comes via Play Services.

[–] IDew@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Can it be bypassed by setting the phones date ahead of time? It works on Samsung devices that force you to wait 7 days to unluck the bootloader

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

no its a timer tied to the setting, its a countdown, it does not look at the date.