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I know a lot of us, myself included, like to believe that piracy allows us to consume problematic media without supporting artists we do not like. But piracy demand also indicates to companies an untapped market that they could tap if they create the right product. HBO is absolutely keeping tabs on piracy of their show now and seeing our traffic the same way Crunchyroll used to keep tabs on pirated fan-translated anime back when they cared.

Also, there is a similar ethical zero-sum game with all other Harry Potter media and products. Normally we can buy on the secondary market if we need a hard copy to scan and rip but don't want to support the creators. But almost every Harry Potter book in circulation is purchased by someone with intention to sell for a profit, and HBO is also likely keeping tabs on sales and resales of DVDs of the old movies. Every time money leaves your bank account for Harry Potter media, you are directly feeding the ecosystem which sustains the Queen of the TERFs.

It's honestly pretty incredible how morally radioactive this one human is. Orson Scott Card is equally repugnant, but the Ender's Game series doesn't even have a small fraction of the market share of Harry Potter (IMHO this is the fault of that movie being just okayish, not good or bad, but that's another topic.) Trump's MAGA movement is comparable in badness, but there really isn't much most of us can do other than voting and never shutting up about how unconstitutional the things he is doing is. Rowling really is comparable to Disney or Nestlé, and she's just one person, not a whole company.

Right now, the only ethical way to consume Harry Potter is watching or reading movies and books on your copies that either:

  • you obtained before 2020
  • were given to you for free in some non-trackable way, e.g. offline or sneakernet.

There is no ethical Harry Potter consumption within capitalism. We will have to see if this changes once she is dead.

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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't watch it anyways, I got tired of Harry Potter in the early 2000s.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

There’s a bunch of flaws in your logic here, not the least of which is:

There is no ethical Harry Potter consumption within capitalism.

Piracy isn’t capitalism

Edit: let me be more clear--

You're trying to resolve one ethical dilemma with another unresolved ethical dilemma: You're trying to resolve: "Can one appreciate an artist's work while acknowledging that the artist is detestable?" with the same logic as "Is digital piracy an ethical workaround to media capitalism?" and combine the two arguments into one solution: "Is it ethical to pirate Harry Potter media from HBO, even though I find both Rowling, HBO, and capitalism detestable?"

It's like asking, "As a strict environmentalist, is it ethical to drive my EV to the market if I know I had to charge it from an energy grid powered by coal plant (that I had no choice but to use)?" Because no matter how much personal opinion and moral relativism enters the ethical calculus, there's a logical breakdown at the crosspoint of systemics, when individual participation merges into participation at scale, how much your choice is actually a choice at all, how much your choice would make any difference, and on and on...

but before all of that, it doesn't make any logical sense to even go down that path since trying to resolve one ethical dilemma with another - especially expecting a black-and-white answer - is just a bit silly.

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[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

IMHO the onlyy ethical way to consume new HP media is original fanfics featuring LGTB+ characters. 😆

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

"Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair..."

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Meh, sail the seas and do what you want. This sounds like a plea from the corporate overlords to get you to not pirate their shit. Also, what show?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Boycotts for media work about as well as those for Hogwarts Legacy, not buying a Tesla post 2024, or staying off PSN after Sony announced game discs will no longer be made. Sadly most people don't care about the political views of those who make these things unless it personally affects them. The only successful boycott I've seen recently is Canadians avoiding American goods in supermarkets and even that took an existential threat of annexation for them to act on it.

You'd have an easier time herding cats.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

At least one of those things was very effective (Tesla's sales took a huge dive)

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[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] duckshuffgoose@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Omg... About to go find out why I should stop reading Orson Scott Card...... Thanks a ton OP.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a set of the books from the time of release. Strangely, I’ve never read the last one.

If you’re curious regarding the details, ContraPoints has a long form vid on the issue.

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