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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 24 points 6 days ago (5 children)

250 years. We've had a form of First Past the Post for as long as we've has government, and mathematically that always results in two parties, aka lesser of two evils. Without changing that, we can point fingers of blame wherever, but the people don't get a real choice.

I wonder if this sticker is on the car of someone who always voted third party or abstained? Clearly, since it's "you" and not "us", so not taking responsibility for generations of voting. Do they realize that their choice might have caused this outcome too? Probably not, since they're using a bumper sticker to blame everyone else.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (14 children)

As opposed to choosing the greater evil for a change?

The actual issue is money in politics. It's the reason no politician wants voter reform. It's why Bernie never had a chance, not just as a presidential candidate. You need preferential voting, no more electoral college and no more Senate - pro rata representation only.

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This isn't profound. It's actually just a dumb "both sides bad" take said by people who would snub a candidate they agree with on 70% of issues with a 50% chance of winning for a person they agree with on 90% of issues with a 5% chance of winning.

The 70% candidate losing isn't a win for your cause because now a person you agree with on 5% of issues just won.

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[–] Gilpat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago

"We're eating shit because you keep eating the shinier of two turds."

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's the result of rich people only making shitty choices available. So sick of the victim blaming gaslighting shit.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The 'lesser evil' is only there so that people feel like they can change the status quo without protesting violently.

Which has been true for exactly 0% of recorded history.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 5 days ago

Definitely true with Biden. Did anyone WANT to vote for him?

[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

What so many miss is that EVERYONE votes for the lesser of two evils. When Trump won, the lesser of two evils won, in the minds of those who voted for him.

So, yes, we HAVE ALL been choosing the lesser of two evils for generations, the fake bumper sticker is right.

MAGA could have this exact same thread with the evils reversed.

And, no it's not a two party system. We've been manipulated into accepting that there are only two viable parties.

We could have had Bernie, who ran as a DINO but we all know is socialist, (we've been manipulated into believing socialism is bad for generations) but someone with a voice said "Bernie is unelectable" and that was all it took, his numbers dropped overnight.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago

What people don't understand is that the DNC was NEVER going to give Bernie the nomination, no matter how many votes he got in the primary. He's an Independent who has never respected the Democratic party. He doesn't support them, he doesn't raise money for them, and he has criticized them often over the years. They hate him, he's not a Democrat, and they are not going to reward him with the biggest award a party can offer a member - their candidacy for President. Bernie's not a Democrat, and the Dems aren't going to make him their leader.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

but someone with a voice said "Bernie is unelectable" and that was all it took, his numbers dropped overnight

That is not at all what happened. I remember. I was there. The DNC cheated over and over to sabotage him and eventually just had to nominate someone who didn't win their primaries (Clinton). There was even a court case where they admitted as much. Because their base was so pissed.

Wilding v. DNC

They have memory holed the hell out of this case. Last time I looked you could only find the transcript on the Internet archive

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, it's not. Bush v. Gore decided this trajectory for us, by some Supreme Court justices.

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Shhh. They're about to do it again

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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