this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2026
52 points (100.0% liked)

Linux Gaming

27907 readers
201 users here now

Discussions and news about gaming on the GNU/Linux family of operating systems (including the Steam Deck). Potentially a $HOME away from home for disgruntled /r/linux_gaming denizens of the redditarian demesne.

This page can be subscribed to via RSS.

Original /r/linux_gaming pengwing by uoou.

No memes/shitposts/low-effort posts, please.

Resources

Help:

Launchers/Game Library Managers:

General:

Discord:

IRC:

Matrix:

Telegram:

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 42 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

I feel like most of such work happens despite the company not because of it. True credit goes to the engineers who did it. I feel like meta would have just scraped them for more VR universe or whatever it was called lol

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 41 minutes ago

Looks good, can't wait for this to be adopted into fedora.

[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 6 points 1 hour ago

If you're concerned about this coming from Meta, you haven't been paying attention. This is not to excuse Metas responsibility in the enshittification of the internet, but as a hyperscalar they of course have been pushing computing technology for a long time, and many of it openly available. CRAM will probably be upstreamed into Linux and I assume is therefore already licensed under the GPL. Meta Research seems to be operating in a much more open and useful way than the rest of the company.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 8 points 2 hours ago

Cool, pervert ram, just what everyone asked for

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Meta can CRAM this functionality into mark Zuckerbergs ass

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

ZStandard is also developed by a Facebook. And its truly amazing. What's wrong with their CRAM development, if everyone benefits from it for free and is Open Source?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't want to have anything to do with facebook, that's why. It's fucking charity washing

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

You actually don't, because this is in the Linux Kernel. Fine if you don't want to, just like I don't want to have anything to do with Epic Games. But this is a personal and emotional decision, and I do respect this!

However, charity washing? Is this conspiracy of something? I mean they develop an Open Source software, controlled by the standards of Linux. So from security and privacy standpoint there should be no issue. And I don't see any problem or issue. If someone could explain to me what the problem here is, I might change my opinion (and trust me, I do change my opinion). I just don't see an issue here.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

I pulled a word out my ass because I can't be bothered with looking it up all the way for this ambiguous term.

Basically, like "sportswashing" they are trying to cover up/compensate for their horrible behaviour by releasing crumbs like this to gain goodwill. I'm not going to change my opinion on facebook being a piece of shit scourge on humanity just because they some ram efficiencies in linux.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

As a user of Z-RAM, I am excited

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Embrace, Extend, Eliminate?

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

You mean like ZStandard from Facebook too?

[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That is not how this works. EEE can be said about window's wsl, but here they are contributing directly to the kernel. That is why linux is that good, these big corporations profit billions by running linux, and getting it sligthly more memory efficient with current ram prices makes them profit even more. Fortunately the license forces them to contribute the code back and we profit from the same optimizations they implemented.

[–] who@feddit.org 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Fortunately the license forces them to contribute the code back

It doesn't. It would only do so if they distributed their modified kernel to others, rather than simply running it on their own servers.

They chose to contribute their changes upstream anyway, presumably so they aren't burdened with having to adapt them to every new kernel version in the future. Fortunately, we stand to benefit as a side effect of that decision.

[–] who@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I dislike Meta as much as anyone, but sometimes a cucumber is just a cucumber.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Here is your cucumber:

MGXf80NTN3Up2sO.jpg

People who dislike meta don't promote meta.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I dislike Meta. But I like their work on ZStandard and use it myself. Best compression algorithm since 7zip. It's extremely fast and can be used in may applications for various use cases. If that is the standard we can expect, then I'm happy what they do on CRAM. We only benefit from this.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Let's hope GPL v2 helps

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Nope, never going to use this now. I don't trust Meta to walk a dog, certainly not with a core os component.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But why not? What is the fear here? It's not like Meta has any control if you install or enable the feature.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Do you not know what that company does?

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

I know the company. But what is the fear about CRAM? What do you think Facebook / Meta will do to harm you, if you use CRAM? I ask this question honestly, as someone who hates Facebook and does not use any of their services, and never visit their pages. But I use ZStandard developed by Facebook. And I do not see any problem in doing so.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

If you can audit the code and it's clean and you built it yourself then probably nothing would happen. I don't trust them not to add something to access the memory though and don't have the time to audit code. Theyre not trustworthy enough to give the benefit of the doubt.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 minutes ago

I do not install anything from Facebook. Now talking about ZStandard as en example: Those libraries are part of the tools I use, such as the file compression tools. And even MAME emulator supports this and other applications, to have some fast decompression without long wait times. I even use it for my backups. I don't know how Facebook could do something in such cases. And for CRAM, this would be integrated into the Kernel with same standards as Linux.

I would understand the concerns if we speak about downloading and installing from Facebook directly. But that is not the case here.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If it is good and open, engineering is engineering. Good engineering came out of Meta before, that all of us use daily, like the zstd compression algorithm.

Save the moral outrage for all the other shady shit Meta imposes on humanity, god knows there is a intercontinental cargo ship load of it to choose from.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 5 points 2 hours ago

If you genuinely realise (and care) that meta is shady, there is no merit in supporting the company.

Moral outrage is something that people with decent morality have. Apathy is something that zombies have.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I got bad news for you if you use the modern web

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Name a few things, I'm curious.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Ever heard of a tiny little thing called React? GraphQL and relay? Presto? Folly? Zstd? Hack? RocksDB? Btrfs?

PyTorch is crazy big in ML/AI and has been for a while now.

And specifically in Linux: https://engineering.fb.com/2015/10/05/open-source/improving-the-linux-kernel-with-upstream-contributions/

And that's not even mentioning things that aren't just their tech, like open compute and funding foss and the Linux foundations, crap ton of open source projects, testing, bug fixes, and miscellaneous contributions.... Let alone all the tech that tries to compete with their tech; all the alternatives to react et al that are 'next gen'

Like it or not, the facebooks and googles of the world have contributed significantly to things you probably interact with every day.

[–] db2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Heard of btrfs, don't use it. Nor the rest.

0 out of 10.

As to the Linux kernel at this point everyone has contributed something. That would be like being mad at air for having been processed by Zuckerbergs human form cooling unit.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Zstd / ZStandard is pretty good.

[–] VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now you're just not arguing in good faith here. You asked for contributions, there they are. I use Btrfs and it's great. (There's lots of actually valid reasons to hate meta, let's focus on those)

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

The criteria was "that all of us use daily" not "that you've heard of". Scroll up, it's right there.

You use btrfs, I don't, therefore the "all of us use" qualification fails, let alone "daily".

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A few notable ones?

https://engineering.fb.com/2018/10/30/open-source/linux/

Btrfs

https://itsfoss.com/news/react-foundation-launch/

React

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/meta-spins-off-pytorch-foundation-to-make-ai-framework-vendor-neutral/

PyTorch (if you're into the AI thing)

I suspect, without evidence, that you'd probably find some Meta engineers contributing to the Linux kernel to some degree, so you may have to rip that out of your system.

[–] db2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Impressive, building your own kernel without Btrfs. I admit, you're better than me.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago
CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=n

Wow that was almost too difficult. 🙄

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't get this comment. You asked for examples, and they gave you.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

I asked for examples that I use. I haven't seen one yet.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 27 minutes ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Facebook_software is comprehensive as far as I know. Even if you don't use React, a lot of developers use it and control the web. So you might wander around the web that is written with React. But its no longer part of Facebook / Meta, so I don't know if it still counts.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Meta has funded all sorts of open source infrastructure, for a long time. If you want to avoid their funded contributions… TBH, I wouldn’t even know where to begin.