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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Apple used to brag that its products just work. Now your expensive Mac comes with a bloated AI experiment you didn’t request, can’t fully remove, and are expected to thank Tim Cook for. When customers start writing tools to delete your flagship feature, that’s not innovation.

[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't it always Apple's position: "We know better what users need and if we don't have some feature it just means that users don't need it"?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What's really crazy is that apple had this obnoxious attitude that "they know what users really want", the users would disagree, they'd complain loudly, then they'd use the software and say "damn... Apple was right, this is better."

But... That was all before 2010. I can't think of a single software innovation the company has had since then. Apple used to deliver overpriced, outdated hardware and they only managed to sell it by packaging it with the slickest OS on the market. These days the situation is reversed, Apple is developing their own silicon, they have some of the fastest consumer chips around, and they need it, because their software is nothing to write home about and their prices are still high.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They did some commendable things involving locking phones when lost/stolen/seized by cops.

They’ve also done some typical tech monopoly things with os bloat, slowing down old hardware and poor support for older hardware.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think you're right about that. Apple's policies around user privacy and security from authorities are generally pretty good, certainly better than average for tech companies.

And... Apple has kind of always been monopolistic, and that hasn't changed a bit.

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[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

The lack of AI was actually a huge selling point for me with the Neo (even though the price was already a huge sell). It's a shame that they're now falling for the same trick as the rest of the industry.

[–] yestalgia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think you mean Tim Apple

[–] f314@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s John Apple now!

(Tim Cook resigned. John Ternus is the current CEO of Apple)

[–] Bryllyg@quokk.au 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if it's a Dread Pirate Roberts situation, and every subsequent Apple CEO automatically becomes "Tim Apple"?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then they should definitely all be Steve Apple.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago

No, for two reasons. First, there are already two Steve Apples, from the same time, no less. Second, because we don't really want one of those Steves back. Great marketer, shit person.

[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I like the idea of Apple's leadership working on a princess bride model. Tim Apple is simply a title that gets handed down

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago
[–] fc78@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TLDR: it's a """news""" article about a Reddit post and does not remotely represent the average Apple user

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

futurism.com "articles" as we know them. I don't care if they are in line with my views or not. It is cheap engagement slop.

[–] mysteryhumpf@feddit.org 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Apparently an unpopular opinion here but I highly appreciate the move by Apple to embrace local AI. Sure it’s not perfect in any sense, but I like the direction.

[–] VeryVito@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

I don't think that's unpopular at all. Local AI is the only AI future worth pursuing.

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here. Local is not the problem. Control is.

[–] CoconutLove@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I’m curious what this tool does that is different from turning off Apple Intelligence in the Settings because they already give you some degree of control.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem is there is no single switch to turn it off. You have to go to each nook and cranny in the settings and toggle a switch. And if you miss anything, that 20 something gigabytes of space doesn’t free up. I’m all for local AI features, but it should be a one toggle switch to turn it off or remove it.

The reddit user featured in the article had to create a script to automate it and keep it off.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But not curious enough to read the second sentence of this article.

[–] CoconutLove@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I think the article is not being 100% accurate. They kind of conflated Apple Intelligence and Siri, you can turn off Siri still.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Disk space it seems.

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[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Even for the off-device stuff it usually gives a direct answer, without fluffing up the user, and almost always mentions double checking validity or speaking to a professional for advice (such as medical advice).

I don’t need to tell people here how terrible AI like ChatGPT is at confidently misleading people and pretending to be a users friend.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I highly doubt it. Knowing apple users its a small minority of technical users doing this while rhe rest of users happily outsource thinking to siri and apple intelligence

[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The only people I know who use macOS are technical in a domain

I don’t know where the reputation of Mac users don’t know how to use a computer comes from

[–] Monument@piefed.world 14 points 1 week ago

I know one single person who uses a Mac as a personal device that isn’t involved in some sort of deep internet technology field. He works in biotechnology and got tired of wasting time and effort on Windows problems.
As for the rest? They use windows systems every day for work, where they’re often either fixing the internet or fixing people’s windows computers. They just prefer Mac for personal use.

I’ve begun to feel like people who trash talk Mac users are the ones who aren’t technically capable - or at least not adaptable. I can fix almost any Mac or Windows issue, and can muddle through most *nix problems. I just don’t want that to be my identity. I got more important things to do.
I’ve had the same MacBook Pro for 5 years now. I code on it, do graphic design, 3d model, play Steam games, and obviously use it as an internet device. It’s never given me a problem, and I imagine it’ll keep going for at least another 3-5 years. It’s fucking awesome, and “just works.”

[–] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

My parents have used Macs exclusively for the last 20 years or so because they don’t require much technical knowledge. Before ChromeOS, smartphones, and tablets, they were the closest thing to an internet appliance. Most Mac users I know fall into that category. Heck my dad and older brother were both very capable and knowledgeable with PCs but Macs are so frictionless that they no longer feel like they need to know how it works. It just works.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I’d love for a law that made it illegal to use “X users” and require absolute numbers.

Is all rage bait. 500 real users on a forum isn’t a useful cohort.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

There are dozens of us!

DOZENS!!!

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[–] xela@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago
[–] SW42@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The selling point for me when buying apple products was the shitty implementation of AI. That was the USP. Now they partnered with google so yeah… I don’t use google in my daily life, degoogled a long time ago, don’t want to come near them with a ten foot pole and the new AI shit is actually reskinned Google…

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What! This is outrageous! Or Acceptable! I don't even know anymore. Thanks Algorithm!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I am whelmed

[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The T14 gen 6 is pretty upgradable and you can replace windows with Linux.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let me know when it's available with something comparable to Apple Silicon SoCs.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Siri, set a reminder for when Intel and AMD collapse, and non-x86 PCs finally become reality.

[–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"RISC architecture is going to change everything."

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[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can use Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon, but you can't replace Mac OS. I used it for a few years and just stopped because of the partitioning and update issues. I bought a T14 gen 3 and put Void on it. Works a lot better and I could finally upgradey SSD to a 2 TB one.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been using Asahi Linux on a Macbook M2 for about a year now and generally like the experience. There's a few things I'm hoping for future improvements, but its definitively "good enough" for my needs now to use daily.

I used it for a few years and just stopped because of the partitioning and update issues.

What issues did you run into?

[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

It was just the space that MacOS takes up and how Asahi partitions. I got used to doing the partitioning myself when I switched to Void and now having it done automaticlly annoys me.

I really don't like Fedora or the package manager too much. It would be great if Nvidia, AMD, or Intel can make their own version of Apples silicon.

My old MacBook M2 was awesome and handled PS2 emulation, Oblivion with mods, and other older games great.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, there are dozens of them. Dozens!

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Apple fanboys aren't automatically swallowing everything they're given? Probably a sign of the apocalypse.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

For those Windows users who stumbled on to this post.

https://github.com/memstechtips/Winhance

I wish I could do the same on iOS...

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