Technology

It's almost like planned obsolescence is a well document and viable business strategy.

These are only "new" chips in a marketing sense.

From a tech standpoint, they're more or less the same chips that Intel was making for LGA1700 3-4 years ago refreshed with a new name and model number. They may have slight tweaks to the clocks and the core configs, but other than that there's really nothing new about them. It's the same silicon that Intel launched back in 2022.

The only reason Intel is doing this is because LGA1700 supports DDR4 and that's kept the demand for it alive with how expensive DDR5 is now.

Since I was a wee lad, when the internet was just an idea, to this day, it's the first time that "innovation" doesn't go "higher, further, faster!" But the opposite...

crapitalism breeds innovation...

I mean AMD has been able to reuse sockets for multiple generations of actual new cpus. Intel has just never done it that way.

Turns out new sockets were just to rip you off.

Lol remember when they software locked LGA1511 to prevent 8th and 9th gen CPUs from working on existing 6th/7th gen motherboards, and then the modding community bypassed it with some BIOS mods and Teflon tape.

This whole time they could've actually been making old computers better than they are and make it so the consumer didn't have to spend a fuck load on upgrades but waited till a chip shortage to do it.....

This isn't anything new in the component industry. Nvidia is even more guilty of this with their RTX ray tracing scam which now looks comically small next to their subsequent AI bubble.

I've personally preferred AMD for this reason because they actually thought ahead of Intel on several occasions like x64, multicore processors, more efficient laptop CPU power consumption, actually funding next gen hardware specs, etc.

In my eyes, the last time Intel was even "on top" of AMD was the skylake overclock era where single thread performance was still sought after heavily.

Hilariously though my servers are all Intel xeons because of their sheer production volume making used parts much cheaper than AMD.

Y'all got somma that DDR3?

AI is causing human regression. That's what this is.

Is one thing to poison the minds of idiots, but this is technological regression.

Things are getting bad.

We're all able to use new technologies on old computer architectures.......

Except we’re not? They’re still the same raptor lake CPUs. Maybe a bump in clock speed, maybe a change in core counts. But the underlying technology is still the exact same. The only new tech I’d expect on these boards is WiFi 7 instead of 6e. But most WiFi cards on desktop are M.2 and you can already swap them out.

The only mew thing is that they’re making them again, and making new versions of them. Otherwise it’s the same stuff. It’s just giving people a second chance to upgrade to this older stuff.

I heard there's a new board with new architecture which works with DDR3!

Memory controllers used to be on the motherboards. So your motherboard would determine the type of RAM you used.

As you may know the something called the chipset these days they used to be called south bridges and we had a north bridge. And the North bridge had things like Memory Controller and other IO stuff. South Bridge hasn't changed much in terms of what it does. More IO.

It's basically like cache tiers. The closer you are to the CPU the faster you can be.

they had the technology the whole time to make upgraded modular chips and sell them for pre-existing computer architecture

I've heard that it's also possible to make consumer motherboards with ECC RAM and no built-in wifi as well, but surely someone would've tried that by now if is was technologically possible.

Maybe the RISC-V RVA23 push will be able to figure it out.

I'm so glad I didn't listen to people online about staying on the "dead" AM4 socket for my rig upgrade two years ago. My 5800X3D might end up being the best value purchase I've ever made...

Time to sell my old DDR4 sticks I guess.

Feel like it's more "when designing an upgrade you do it all at once not piecemeal" so it never made sense to use old tech before because you'll just cause a bottleneck.

Even though I still feel like using "the fastest" ram used to just end up giving you more problems and crashes..

Cool I'll buy some DDR4 before I gets expensive.. Annnnnd. It's gone.

Its almost as if its planned obsolescence or somethin

Does this mean I can finally upgrade my i7 from 2018 without ditching my mobo and ram?

Yeah but DDR4 is just as expensive these days.

The only place where you'll ever notice any difference between RAM generations is the specs sheet. And even there it's minor.

Call it supply and demand but I think that's fucked up nm which way you look at it.

Intel and AMD - the entire x86 duopoly - is basically there specifically to ensure consumer PCs are as shit as possible, and to do everything in their power to slow down any meaningful technological progress.

Got my hopes up I thought my haswell server was about to get an upgrade. I love that little 4690k.

Rolling with my 5800X3D 'till the wheels fall off and even then I have a 5700X3D as a backup. I'm not upgrading until 5090-level GPU performance is available for less than $800.