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Collective Shout, a small but vocal lobby group, has long called for a mandatory internet filter that would prevent access to adult content for everyone in Australia. Its director, Melinda Tankard Reist, was recently appointed to the stakeholder advisory board for the government’s age assurance technology trial before the under-16s social media ban comes into effect in Australia in December.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 18 points 9 hours ago

Yet 1000 weirdos in Australia will have more sway, curiously.

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 57 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Who's behind this sudden wave of age verification bullshit, Schrödinger's parents? The ones who shove an iPad in front of their 2 year old and berate school teachers for not being poorly paid babysitters who raise their kids for them? And yet they claim to care SO MUCH about the well being of children that they push these obscene and draconian policies on the rest of us? What a bunch of fucking hypocrites, but that's typical for conservatives.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 37 points 12 hours ago

Governments and some religious nutjobs.

They only pretend to care about children. It is about power and control. Always has been, always will.

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"Face backlash" = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.

They don't care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. We need thousands of people calling them non stop disturbing them for hours on end, not just signing petitions.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

You mean like exactly what's been happening over the past few days?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As long as it is legal CC companies should be barred from dictating what products and services their systems cover.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

“The internet has no borders. Women and girls everywhere are impacted by male violence against women and misogyny in general which we believed these games perpetuated,” she said.

Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 124 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

While Collective Shout solely targeted games it said violated policies held by payment platforms, Itch.io's move to temporarily remove all NSFW content resulted in games with LGBTQ+ themes being removed.

One petition signer who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community said they were concerned that banning sexual-based games would be the start of cracking down on LGBTQ+ content.

There it is.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

if the LGBTQ+ games were not sexual in nature (why does it not say?), then that is quite damning and I approve of this conspiracy theory.

[–] chaonaut@lemmy.4d2.org 32 points 15 hours ago

It's not all that much of a conspiracy theory as those pushing this line at the payment processoers openly advocate that since LGBTQ+ references sex by way of sexuality and gender, then that is sexual content, and is therefore inappropriate for children. This, of course, completely ignores heterosexuality and cisgender because they consider queer people existing to be harmful to children. And trying to get through to them about how important age-appropriate sexual education is in combating child abuse is an exercise in frustration.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you google Tankard-Reist you'll find it's not a conspiracy theory - she has actively tried to block queer representation at every level in every way for decades

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 16 hours ago

politicians have literally said that the reason for censorship bills about the internet are specifically to go after lgbtq spaces.

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 114 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

So sick of conservatives forcing their beliefs on others. Filter your own content, use parents controls, don’t ban everything you don’t like because of your arrogant belief in made up morality. Morality is relative and religion does not give your opinions weight.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

everything you don’t like

On issues like these, conservatives will discover the magic of actual reasons. It's only "things you don't like" when we're talking about banning hate speech or something.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

Yeah but Jesus definitely preached love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and also, ew gay people not in my back yard.

I'm pretty confident on two of those anyway

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 54 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The Mastercard/Visa monopoly (or duopoly) is bad for consumers. It should be broken up.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago

And hypothetically if it won't get broken up because the government works for them and not for us, then we can break the monopoly ourselves.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Discover was just acquired by Capital One, so one less viable competitor too.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

While the pressure on the credit card companies should still work due to conversations behind closed doors, my understanding is that those companies are not actually payment processors. Payment processors are a bunch of companies/banks, some you likely haven't heard of (one is PayPal though, feel free to make your voice heard to them), and they are taking legal responsibility for the transactions themselves, and thus actually have incentive to police transactions. Credit card companies themselves, not having those legal liabilities, would much rather people just spent their money everywhere as long as there was low risk of cards being stolen or misused.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 29 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

When is the European alternative to these coming?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 31 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

An alternative to PayPal, called WERO is currently in it's rollout process in Germany, Belgium and France. In October the next step will be activated, allowing payments in e-commerce. Later down the road, you'll be able to pay in real shops. Luxembourg and Netherlands are to join in next. More and more banks start to adopt WERO.

I urge everyone to use WERO as much as you can. It's flying a bit under the radar at the moment and this must be a success. Hopefully more EU members will join soon.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I would prefer if the EU/Swiss backed project based on GNU Taler makes it instead: https://www.taler.net/en/ngi-taler.html

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Sounds great, but as with so many of these projects, they sound overly complicated for the masses. Wero is already a thing and it's straight forward. Even that is too complicated for many people, but it's gaining traction at least.

Anywho, I'm rooting for both!

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Do you mean digital euro? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_euro

This would be the only thing that could break visa mastercard duopol. Hopefully 2028

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?

...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 66 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.

It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

They're still going after books too. Any and all media, speech, any kind of communication, which is free from their clawing grasp.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

“ All dem queer books are hurtin our kids, makin em all gay and shit! “

Says the man standing in front of his trailer with a deep five o’clock shadow spanning his double chin, a permanently stained wife-beating tank top and a prominent beer gut, who has five scrawny & bruised kids, and a wife that bears an eerie resemblance to himself but can’t quite look anyone in the eye.

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[–] Lebensmittel@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The argument is control. Religious zealots are all about controlling society and subduing people to follow their rules (that they themselves tend to break all the time)

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 64 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".

Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s

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