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Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a vocal critic Donald Trump, was reelected Sunday in a result that provides relief to critics of widening U.S. influence in Latin America.

With 100% of the vote counted, Brazil’s electoral court announced that the soon to be 81-year-old Lula had a lead of nearly 4.4 million votes over opponent Flávio Bolsonaro, giving him 51.8% of the total vote. Bolsonaro quickly refused to concede defeat and asked for the election results to be annulled after an evening of chaos at some polling places that followed a last-minute decision to extend voting by two hours.

Bolsonaro is the son of former President Jair Bolsonaro, whom Lula defeated to take the presidency in 2022.

Lula’s triumph bucks a regional trend of victories for right-of-center presidential candidates allied with Trump. It also means Latin America’s largest economy, with a GDP of $2.6 trillion per year, will likely continue defying Trump’s demands, despite the pressure of increased tariffs.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

A couple of things to understand about Brazilian elections:

  • Voting is mandatory for all citizens aged 18-70, though failing to vote nets you a 4 BRL fine (less than a dollar)^[I understand people who would rather have it be non mandatory, but think about a criminal group ensuring only "their people" go out to vote. With optional voting, it gets easier for them to ensure victory. This would be a real situation in many cities in Brazil, where said criminal groups already do everything in their power to ensure "their guys" get elected.]
  • Every Brazilian citizen has an ID with photo (I've only recently learned that USA doesn't have something like a nationwide ID);
  • Election happens on a sunday and people who have to work on said day can ask to leave for 2 hours in order to vote;
  • Voting is standardized and organized at a federal level, even for municipal voting. The electoral tribunals exist solely for dealing with elections;
  • The majority of funds spent on campaigns come from the electoral fund, which is distributed to parties according to how many elected deputies, senators and governors they have (a great way to ensure big parties stay rich and well funded). Up until 2014, corporations could still donate to campaigns. After that, only citizens may donate and only up to 10% of their earnings.
  • The electronic urns are audited before and after elections^[This isn't a "we self audited ourselves" situation, in case you're wondering. Universities, Federal Police, Army and several other entities, public and private, can take part in the audit], they are completely offline and save votes to an internal disk. Since their inception, despite many claims, no fault or fraud has ever been found on the hardware or software. Even fucking bozo and his flunkies couldn't find any security breach back in 2022, while he was in power.
  • With how urns are distributed, it's easy to account if the total amount of registered votes is equal to the amount of voters that showed up. This first verification is done once voting time is over by the 4 poll workers that care for each urn/section.
  • Voters have to do both ID and biometric verification (fingerprint) before voting
  • No cell phones or kids go in the booth with you (take a wild guess why "no kids")
[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

81 year old? Can't a generation just fucking die already?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Should have seen him at the debate. He was running circles around Bolsonaro, at thirty years his junior.

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

Being a fascist is bad enough, being an incompetent fascist is more than bad enough.

Now being an incompetent fascist that get's humiliated against someone as old as trump is downright sad.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago

I agree but still better than a Trump aligned person winning. Anyone in that pool is like voting for the end times. Basically authoritarian types, anything must be better than them, even an old dude.Ill add that I know almost nothing except who Trump wanted to win and they're bitching about results, the Trump way, oh also think the loser vamoosed recently, to the well known sanctuary of the United States. Oh good job we know how much they enjoy immigrants.....he has money? Oh pardon my faux pas.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

sounds like another 81 yo that was a sore loser in 2020.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Electronic voting is such a liability for exactly this reason, it gives bad actors plausible doubt to throw on an election result.

Pen/pencil and paper. Much more secure.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

There was a saying in Brazil, up to the 90s, that "elections are won in the counting" - fraud was rampant, especially at municipal/state level and the electronic urns got rid of that.

Paper can only be considered more secure if you have special paper and special printing like money bills, otherwise they can be falsified much more easily.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

this was literally the narrative to try and make them less secure by the bolsonaros when they were in power. the brazilian voting machine is actually state of the art and they know it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

the machines can also be rigged, and often for the fascists.

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Lost me on that. Pen and paper aren't at all more secure than Brazilian voting machines.

They are essentially low spec linux computers without ports, internet acess or easy way in. The only thing they do it store results and print them on paper.

Even if one manages to crack open a machine and sneak something inside, there is security to prevent it to pass as genuine

[–] gozz@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The internal state of the machine is not observable and not auditable. Anything stored in a computer can be falsified and the voter cannot know that it recorded their vote correctly. Unless the printing you are referring to is that it prints a paper ballot for each voter that they can check and then drop in a ballot box, then there is a step in the process that scrutineers can't have eyes on. Even if the software is open source and the scrutineers got to watch it being compiled and installed on the machines, there are so many unobservables. Computers are literally billions of times more complicated and harder to audit than pencil and paper.

The only electronic voting system I would even begin to entertain trusting is one that basically just fills the ballot out for you to make sure it is legible, and that you can validate the paper ballot. Such a system could then also keep its own count, giving a much quicker unofficial count before the paper ballots are counted, but I don't really think it's worth it. It is still an extremely complex machine that it would be easy to hide some sort of surveillance/wireless connection in, and anyone who can inspect the running total counts can also use that to determine how each person that goes through the booth voted.

There is value in the brutal simplicity of pencil and paper, folding your ballot, and putting it in a box. It's a system anyone can understand and that the human eye can audit.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

There is value in the brutal simplicity of pencil and paper, folding your ballot, and putting it in a box. It’s a system anyone can understand and that the human eye can audit.

Which can also be easily falsified

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Electronic voting is such a liability for exactly this reason

Gotta go back to the old tried and true Butterfly Ballot system. That never fails.

Pen/pencil and paper. Much more secure.

Nothing in the election machinery prevents a candidate from claiming fraud.

Certainly, nothing about pen and paper ballots prevents disreputable agents from stuffing ballot boxes or just refusing to count opposition votes entirely.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (9 children)

You Americans better fucking vote like the Brazilians. Congrats Lula and carry on exporting and filling the massive holes the MAGA fucknuts opened for you.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 216 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Bolsonaro quickly refused to concede defeat and asked for the election results to be annulled

What a little bitch.

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