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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That is increasingly concerning, i'll start exploring other options. Can't believe they're rotting from the inside.

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 5 hours ago

There are some areas where I don't want tokenmaxxing. Things like automotive and aircraft control systems. Computers that control rockets. Cryptography. You know, places like that.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 61 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)

I'm sorry, WHAT??? I use Proton!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THEM, NOT JOIN THEM!

I truly hope we're being overly dramatic here because Proton has been a good service for me. I do not feel like moving everything to another service. At least I have my own domains, though.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 24 points 6 hours ago

Proton have been cunts for a long time my friend...

[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've had my Proton for not even one year, & turns out they're evil, same with Bluesky, I'll move away, sometime, whenever I get the morale, it's annoying, having to delete more old accounts, finding more even obscurer alternatives, the moving process as a whole is daunting, but I'll keep going, because if I stop, how will I expect tomorrow to be different from today if I can't bother to make change myself?

[–] cpbsy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Keep fighting the good fight, my friend.

I host my own email on my own domain, and I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I switched to Tuta during the last Proton scandal and never looked back.

[–] amgine@lemmy.world 33 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

I’ve been an early proton adopter and advocate. As well as Bitwarden. This constant need to move platforms is getting really old. Is Tuta worth it? Am I going to have to move in a year because they get private investors? Will they donate to omarchy in six months?

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've been with Tuta over a year now and have only seen it get better. But who knows what the future holds.

I have also stopped putting my eggs in one basket. I set up my own domains for email redirection via Tuta, so I can take the addresses with me wherever I go. Mullvad for VPN. Bitwarden for passwords. Set up my own onsite/off-site file backups. Stuff like that.

Trying to do things in a way that is still convenient but more flexible and modular, if that makes any sense.

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[–] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ive only been with tuta for a couple of months and so far, no complaints. But I would keep an eye out due to Nextcloud and their partnership if your someone who is anti-cloud.

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[–] mysterious_cake@feddit.nl 7 points 6 hours ago

I’ve been with tuta for a decade now and it just does its job.

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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 85 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

So if I'm reading this right, Proton is re-interviewing their entire staff, focusing on how they've integrated AI into their workflow, and if they aren't using AI as much as management wants they're likely to lose their jobs?

That is extremely disappointing.

Posteo is suddenly looking very shiny.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Tuta is good. Waiting on their drive.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently Tuta sucks, which really sucks as I was halfway through migrating my email to them. Now I have to start over with Posteo and wait for them to do something stupid

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 58 points 9 hours ago

The bubble can't pop fast enough

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 47 points 9 hours ago

Really? Is nothing safe these days? I just switched my email to Proton recently from Gmail. It's been a long time coming, and I still can't ditch it completely bcz I have had it for over 10 years and some stuff still uses it.

[–] hiawatha98@lemmy.world 82 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

To save people from diving into the Reddit swamp. Here is Proton’s response from a similar post over there:

Just to clarify, Proton is not doing layoffs and using AI as an excuse. We actually have a big shortage of talent and are actively hiring across the org: https://proton.me/careers#jobslist

AI is changing the tech industry and we, like everyone else, need to evolve our ways of working to remain effective in our industry, and to deliver features faster to users.

Proton exists to protect privacy and give people control over their digital lives. That commitment guides how we evaluate and use AI, including the tools we use internally. We see opportunities to build better products and work more effectively, but using AI requires judgment about privacy, security, accuracy, and where it adds actual value.

We are assessing how colleagues are adapting to these tools, what support they need, and who can help lead this work. We’re looking for concrete improvements in their work and thoughtful decisions about when to use AI - and when not to.

To do this, we’re in the process of figuring out who among our existing colleagues are the best future leaders, assessing whether everyone has the skills they need to take a step forward in a post-AI world, and making sure we are offering the support that is necessary, to those who need it, to succeed.

In the interest of transparency, the full email that was sent to some of our staff can be found below:

Dear,

AI is fundamentally changing how we build products and how we work. The capabilities Proton needs are evolving, and we must accelerate our transformation to remain competitive and deliver on our mission.

Getting this right is critical to Proton’s future. We need people who can translate AI’s capabilities into better products, stronger execution, and new ways of working—and who approach this change with curiosity, judgment, and urgency.

Last week, Andy interviewed more than 40 senior leaders across Engineering and Product to begin this process. We are now extending re-interviews more broadly to assess how people are adapting to AI and whether they have the capabilities and approach needed for Proton’s next phase.

This is also an opportunity to identify people who can lead the transformation. Those who demonstrate the ability to rethink their work, put AI into practice, and help others adapt may have opportunities to take on greater responsibility, accelerate their development as leaders, and shape Proton’s future.

What does this mean for you?
• Not everyone may be invited to a re-interview.
Given the scale and timeframe, interviews will be prioritized based on the organization’s assessment needs. Whether you receive an invitation should not, on its own, be interpreted as an individual outcome. Any decisions affecting your employment will be communicated separately.
• For those that get invited, re-interviews will take place November 4–11.
Further details about scheduling, format, and preparation will be shared centrally.
• Your interviewer will be outside your team and reporting line.
Interviewers will be selected from a pool of leaders who demonstrate strong AI capability and have aligned on the assessment criteria.
• Expect a discussion about how you think and work.
We want to understand how you apply AI to real problems, how it has changed your approach, where you see opportunities to improve, and how you expect your role to evolve.
• Come prepared with concrete examples.
Be ready to discuss what you have changed in your work, the results, what you have learned, what has not worked, and what you would do differently. A list of tools alone will not demonstrate this.
• Your ability to adapt matters alongside your current capabilities.
We will explore how you learn, challenge established ways of working, exercise judgment, and act on the opportunities AI creates.

What are the consequences?
These re-interviews are consequential. Interviewers will document their assessments, which will inform the broader review of our organization and talent. That review may lead to changes in roles, responsibilities, and continued employment. Individual outcomes will be communicated directly once decisions are finalized.
The process will also help us identify people ready to take on broader scope and leadership responsibilities as Proton evolves.

We recognize that this process creates uncertainty. We will be clear about what has been decided and what remains open, and communicate individual outcomes as soon as we can.
Please take the re-interview seriously and come prepared to discuss your actual work, your experience with AI, and how you can contribute to Proton’s next phase.

Today at 4pm CET, there will be a call for recipients of this email to answer a few more logistical questions.

The meeting will be taking place on this Proton Meet Link

Best,

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 58 points 7 hours ago

Did they even read what they wrote? They say they're not doing layoffs, but the internal email states that interview performance could impact "continued employment". Anyone getting that absolutely should be worried about their job.

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 37 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This definitely sounds better than the headline indicated:

Just to clarify, Proton is not doing layoffs and using AI as an excuse. We actually have a big shortage of talent and are actively hiring across the org: https://proton.me/careers#jobslist [...] we’re in the process of figuring out who among our existing colleagues are the best future leaders, assessing whether everyone has the skills they need to take a step forward in a post-AI world, and making sure we are offering the support that is necessary, to those who need it, to succeed.

However the actual letter to employees seems to undermine it (emphasis added):

That review may lead to changes in roles, responsibilities, and continued employment. Individual outcomes will be communicated directly once decisions are finalized.

Hey managers, don't do this shit. If they had just stopped at "may lead to changes in roles and responsibilities" this would probably be fine, people understand that team structures sometimes need to change or modernize. But don't lie to your employees and tell them it's not about layoffs when that is in fact a possible outcome. If you need to do some layoffs, it should be entirely separate and part of the normal performance eval process, not done via some BS re-interview under a team who probably doesn't even understand the work.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it seems to obvious to me that you should never say something like "this could affect your continued employment," even if it's true! That means that all of the staff are worried about their jobs, even ones you have no plans to lay off at all. Such a shitty thing to say, causing unnecessary stress to everyone. It totally feels like a threat. I've been through a similar (but honestly worse) mismanagement scenario at work, and I still 100% trust the company less, even though I'm still here 2 years later.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I expect this entire situation is a way to get people to quit voluntarily and gain leverage over people who remain via increased workload/threat of further layoffs.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, it's undeniably hostile and will not make for the best working environment.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

We actually have a big shortage of talent

That review may lead to changes in roles, responsibilities, and continued employment. Individual outcomes will be communicated directly once decisions are finalized.

Knowing how the hiring/onboarding process works in IT — i.e. how fucking hard it is to find, hire, onboard, train and build up a working relationship with an adequate employee — I strongly doubt they have a "shortage of talent" if they're willing to fire (or even just threaten to fire) people over what amounts to tooling use.

Oh, also, if I got an email threatening my "continued employment" over shit like this I'd be looking for a new job ASAP. And I have been using LLMs for my work for a couple of years now.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 85 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

LOL.

This is sleazy AI drafted corporate speak confirming everyone's supposition: we're pivoting to AI and if you're not on board you're fired.

I guaran-fucking-tee the interview will be fed to a model for analysis and scoring.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 53 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is a performance review tied to AI.

The primary use of performance reviews is to manufacture a reason to fire someone.

[–] sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

If you've worked somewhere with no or only very perfunctory reviews you can tell that there are some advantages to having some kind of system in place

This though is a major turnoff from Proton.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 hours ago

That review may lead to changes in roles, responsibilities, and continued employment.

Here come the Bobs.

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