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Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of the past criticisms of proton I believe are very overstated but it's clear that things are not healthy inside proton.

Edit. Considering how big of a target proton is, if this is how unhealthy the culture is, I'm surprised they haven't had any big incidents already.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

I have an invite to thundermail, seriously considering it. Its not as featured as proton mail, but then I dont use most of the proton features in my mail plus subscription. I have 6 months left on my pre paid proton subscription, so its something to think about.

[–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks. Did.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Mullvad supporting literal Neo Nazis crosses a line for me but Proton using some LLMs is not that level of massive ethical breach. But feel free to support other smaller VPNs. Only good for alternatives. Proton will probably sell out harder at some point.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

told yall so back when he revealed himself fascist.

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[–] abc@suppo.fi -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

No. I'm not going to make changes in my personal digital life because of online influencers.

Proton is fine.

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