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I know the word normies may have weird connotations, but I just mean that, regular everyday people.

I've been enjoying Lemmy a lot and even recommended it to a few close friends who are working in tech. But I would like Lemmy to be way bigger, maybe have those makefriends communities like reddit has, be it gaming friends, just for chatting, for voicecalls, etc etc...

But I also wonder, could growing Lemmy indiscriminately be a bad thing? As you relax filters and barriers to entry, yes, more people can come in, but I have a feeling the quality of the people might go down aswell.

Is a clique-like platform what Lemmy is supposed to be like? Or is it supposed to try and absorb as much users as possible and be just a user-managed user-owned reddit alternative with no ads and less censorship?

I believe the answer may lie somewhere in the middle, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, as I'm a total newbie on here.

(Also I understand private dms on Lemmy are not secure, but you can keep the idea of the "r4r" community and just drop a matrix or session link in dms, not perfect as the admins can be what username you sent out, but at least it ends there)

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[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

The benefits vastly outpace the negatives. More people.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 8 points 13 hours ago

A slow growth would be preferable at the moment. Getting Lemmy to be regularly used by at least 250k people would allow more niche communities to take off.

I do not see a big problem regarding people feeling being drowned out by rising user count. There's always the possibility of going the way BeeHaw did, to curate the instances you want to federate with, allowing smaller, more isolated nodes to exist to provide safe spaces and to avoid context collapse .

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, I think Lemmy could have an instance or two for the normies.
And then a dozen or so for the weirdos.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Weirdos are fine if they keep to themselves, but the issue they don't and won't.

You can't have any discussion of anything on lemmy without insane people chiming in and trying to derail the conversation by making it all about themselves, and injecting their violent rhetoric into it. I've seen many peaceful threads in lemmy get ruined a few hours later by an influx of the virtue signalling nutbags on here who feel compelled to harass and insult anyone or any viewpoint they deem morally impure. And it sucks to be around folks who are only online to get high on their own supply and have nothing of substance to contribute to any conversation other than how much better they are than other people.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 14 hours ago

You can't have any discussion of anything on lemmy without insane people chiming in and trying to derail the conversation by making it all about themselves, and injecting their violent rhetoric into it.

That is anywhere you go. Not just Lemmy.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Then ask your admins to defederate with wierdo instances. The dbzero admins have a track record of being open about defederation and being open to user opinion.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if I'm a normie or weirdo here. Like I enjoyed the internet when it was just a bunch of tech nerds sharing their geekery with one another. And I hate that now it's full of morons who inundate the rest of us with their love of sportball and reality tv and fucking mundanity. But also there are weirdos here that I want nothing to do with. So this all strikes me as very perspective-dependent.

[–] SlayersFan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

og internet rocked, forums and IRC, I was a loser with no friends at school, but online I found my people, nowdays everyone is online and this is kinda gone (at least in mainstream social media apps)

But it might be a matter of organizing people into different "servers", my only worry is this being a thing that could be hard, so it's kinda better to only invite "selected people", meaning online friends you feel would be a good fit for the community.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Because it is. What's normal for me isn't for you.

I don't see anyone on here going on about sportsball or TV shows. But reddit became like that for sure.

I'm an evil normie here because I own a Nintendo Switch and enjoy it, rather than pirating all my games on my $5000 linux gaming PC, which seems to be the 'norm' for lemmy gamers.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

Let's all pretend that Lemmy.ml and Hexbear are for normies, then we will have some peace.

[–] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If I may, I'd like to challenge the idea that "regular, everyday people" exist. Most everyone is deeply educated and passionate about something. Tech projects like Lemmy tend to start out by attracting people who are passionate about technology (for obvious reasons). That's fine and logical, but to lump everyone else into the category of "normies" is to discount the people who couldn't care less about tech but are instead experts in art, or history, or athletics, or any other dimension of human endeavor. People only become normies when they feel compelled to sand down the sharp edges of their passions in order to better fit in with others who have different passions, even as those others do the same.

I hope that Lemmy never becomes a place for normies, not because people who aren't into tech get scared away, but because they feel safe and encouraged to be their own special kind of abnormal. Because they will hopefully find others who share their specific passion, but will at the very least find a community that celebrates and encourages passion in all its forms.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Cool. I live the most educated city in the USA by many standards.

Most people who live here are educated nominally, but they are mostly passionate about TV shows and sports, or their uninformed political opinions. And even with the high level of education, 45%, or about 1 in 2 people, don't hold a college degree.

Where are all these 'experts' you claim exist? I don't ever see them even in my own city. Now if I go the MFA, yeah I am much more likely to meet someone who has a passion/expertise for art, but the majority of folks that go there are not experts or passionate, they are just doing there for a 'thing to do' or they are a tourist.

If I want to find experts on topics, you go to podcasts or youtubes or read books. You don't talk to people on the street. My barista isn't going to want to talk about the Dutch East India Company, the are going to want to talk about the Patriots game today. They probably have a BA or a MA even, but they probably aren't interested in talking about what they studied because to them college was just a thing they had to do because someone told them to do it and they just went through the motions of their education rather than had any passion or dedicated interest in their studies.

I am not even making this up. Many people I have known here over the years have little to no interest in anything other than what is immediately application to their job or what they do for entertainment. I've met dozens of dozens of PhDs who don't have any passion or interest in their own work, other than the money it brings them to go travel or go to restaurants, and they only do those things based on what is trending on IG. They have no interest in Greek history, but they saw the pretty picture of the island with the white houses and they want to go to Greece now so they can also take the same selfie. And if I talk about Greek history in terms of my own interest of that topic, or that I studied Attic Greek for two years, I'm a straight up weirdo freak to them and they usually start in with the passive aggressive insults about why I 'would waste my time on useless stupid things like that'.

I also grew up in a small rural town, where nobody was educated, and well, it was leagues leagues worse there. The only 'expertise' anyone had was again, focused on TV sports or Top20 pop music. Nobody I knew back then had any expertise or knowledge of anything outside of basic blue collar jobs that they mostly hated and resented.

I especially remember halfway through graduate school, when I learned most of my cohort and most of my professors, didn't even like what they were doing. The image of a professor who has a deep passion for their work... is not most of the academic population. They just did it because 'they couldn't they of anything else to do and they got good grades'. They had no passion for their field, they just saw it as the path of least resistance for their lives. I remember my ethics professor telling me his true passion was playing guitar and tennis and he became an academic because his parents were both academics and it was the easiest thing for him to do, he was also utterly shocked that I came from uneducated hill folk and my parents were funding my PhD like his did.

[–] SlayersFan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Beautiful idea, and while I mostly agree, normies really are a thing, met quite a few people in my life that live shallow lives with surface level interests, people who just go with the flow of what most other people are doing, wearing, listening to, or playing at the time, and they are totally content with such a life.

Yes they might like football or music or games a lil bit, but just the surface super popular stuff, they don't really care about investing too much time into a hobby and might prefer to just watch tiktoks for 3 hours

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I’d like to see more sensible liberals here to offset the extremism of the far-left crowd.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I would rather have "normies" then the terminally online divorced from reality late 30 something weirdos with opinions that range from "yikes" to "please keep 100 miles away from a school at all times" users currently making up the majority.

[–] Hirohito@fedinsfw.app 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just what do you think you are, mack?

[–] SlayersFan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

No idea what you might be referring to

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

In general yeah. I love all the conversations I have IRL I just wish those randos were here for more consistent exchanges of ideas

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 14 hours ago

Yep.
There will just be more and larger communities. Many of them will just be tech-focused, and the discussions will move there.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit doesn't have voice calls as far as I know, but I haven't paid close attention.

[–] SlayersFan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

It doesn't, but there are reddits for the purpose of finding people to voice chat with using other platforms

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