Fewer tourists from other nations would be a contributing factor. ICE in general may be more. Perhaps economy isn't as great as our Fuhrer wants us to think.
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Tourism would be a thing, yeah.
Who in their right minds would go visit the US, knowing full well you might end up in a torture prison for a year just because you wanted to have a week of fun in the US?
Ice
I've noticed that general traffic in the Central Florida area, where traffic is usually among the very worst on the entire East Coast, has been much lighter lately.
We know that cops are profiling people, and pulling over Hispanics for false reasons, so my speculation is that people are staying off the roads except when absolutely necessary.
I also believe that Hispanic parents are telling their kids to stay in the house with their friends, and not go out and drive around. Remember when you were a teen, and would drive all day because at least you were out of the house and away from the parents? If those kids get in some trouble, it could easily find its way back to the parents, and the next thing you know, the entire family is on its way back to Honduras. So parents are warning their kids of the serious consequences of even a minor issue.
I think a lot of people are laying low.
Not in my experience, living and clubbing, in São Paulo. Can't really compare with pass years, since I'm being living here just for two years, but all the parties I go are really packed.
Unfair to compare Sao Paulo, brother
Going to a club sounds beyond exhausting
Just stay in the dark with sun glasses swaying lightly and will be able to go all night long
People are terrified.
Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they're already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly
Oh, plus tourism is basically over
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
And we're still in the good times. My therapist asks me why my scores for happy/hopefulness are low and the anxiety/depression scores are high every week, and I can't help but gesture wildly at the state of the world.
Fucking figures that I'd get 2008'd again right as I start getting my life together.
The system requires these shocks so that owner class keep growing their pie at expense of working people. Sure mspt survive but everytime many are cornered into poverty
Shock Doctrine, or "disaster capitalism". Naomi Klein.
This is capitalism operating as normal, too. It's always in crisis, and it's up to regular working people to bail it out.
Man I feel you. I started therapy a little over a year ago and mental health has improved a thousand fold, but I feel like it's too late and the country is only a few years away from falling completely.
People are terrified.
Funny way to spell "poor."
Average people aren't nearly as worried about ICE as they should be, but people are definitely feeling the pinch of a dying middle-class and wealth inequality skyrocketing.
It's not just money. There's very real fear as well, it's both
just look at vegas/reno, dead city, actually dying before trump came in, he just accelerated it, plus state schools in west coast was suffering enrollment problems for the whole pandemic as well(prior to trump), last article i read is the schools are so desperate they have becoming offering easy admissions to the schools to hs students if they complete minimum amount of these courses, i dont know how long this will last, from what ive gathered almost everyone who was in school during the pandemic had really negative experience(dint learn much) after graduating. and people's futures are uncertain as the schools arnt offering much in career development.
csu system felt like it was on the verge of collapse; i think only a few schools were not suffering severely.
UC doesnt seem to suffer the same effect though, at least not yet.
All colleges went through the millennial wave, so there are fewer American college aged students to teach. It wouldn't be that big of a problem, but Trump's immigration policy is killing foreign enrollment, which is going to collapse a major revenue stream for universities.
School admint thought they could keep up the grift despite the demographic change and made zero preparation for it.
Schools don't make money on domestic students, so a drop in domestic enrollment isn't a major issue as long as foreign enrollment and research stays constant.
Which school are we talking about specifically hrrr
All of them in the USA.
Private school charging 40k per annum is not turning profit?
Out of state public school tuition also doesnt make money?
Where is the money going?
Most private universities provide significant aid to students; they actively engage in price discrimination.
Out of state tuition earns more than in-state, but there are additional fees that foreign students pay.
As for the money, it goes into a lot of the facilities and university operations. Universities are big clout chasers, so they will try to spend money to increase prestige.
So with decreasing enrollment they will have to fire admin parasites... The horror 🤣
Covid surge this summer
Too fucking expensive.
And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.
Not really no. The ones I go to are busy as ever.
No, but I only go to bars for events. Here where I live the bars I go to are packed
I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
not just ice, but border/custom detainment, requiring review of your phone of any anti-trump, anti-zionist material, which already deter tourist, plus canadians dont like trump constant messaging of invading thier country.
That's true, international tourism is down across the country, not just domestic tourism.
I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
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Nobody has money to burn.
I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.
Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.
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...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.
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