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The article says this:

“Immediately withdraw from NATO’s integrated command and then, in stages, from the organization itself. Reject the tribute demanded by the United States of 5% of GDP devoted to defense spending,” read France Unbowed’s 222-page program.

However, France under Mélenchon would still provide assistance to European Union countries under EU treaties, the document added

Is Melenchon right? Is it better for the EU to be the organisation of mutual defence guarantees for Europe, rather than NATO?

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[–] SomeOneWithA_PC@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago

Normally it is:

divide and conquer

But those want:

divide (yourself) and get conquered (more easily)

I would advise against it, but that is just my opinion.

[–] tardigrade@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, the far left (along with the far right) is fully in line with its headquarters in Beijing and Moscow ...

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 3 days ago

The far left in Spain also voted to leave NATO (the motion didn't pass). One of many reasons why I will not vote for them.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good luck lowering the GDP spending for defence while leaving NATO at the same time. I understand France is a nuclear power, but it's less strong than US, Russia or China. Also, how are they gonna maintain all the nuclear arsenal?

[–] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The nuclear arsenal is expensive but it was maintained and modernized just fine when we were barely spending 2%, we don't need to compete against China or the US for it to be sufficient

Not that leaving NATO anytime soon is even close to being reasonable

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I saw that you're actually investing more into your nuclear capabilities tho, like that submarine that was launched earlier this year. Besides that, there's a lot of stuff that changed in warfare since everyone was spending 2%. And now others have increased their spending as well. It does suck, indeed, but it is what it is.

[–] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That submarine was planned for and built under the 2% budget. What wasn't is the announced warhead count increase, which probably wouldn't have happened under the previous spending target, going from 290 to an undisclosed number.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 2 days ago

Right, I see. Thank you for the insight!

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago

This dude wants a wealth tax, but also to get out of NATO. One I really like. The other, I really don't.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (6 children)

the only issue with NATO is Article 1. Waive that requirement and it would be perfect.

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[–] ironblossom@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why this is even mentioned, he doesn’t have any chance to win

[–] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!

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