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[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

This was done via analog technology and was a mystery for quite some time.

Edit: image didn't attach.

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Don't leave us hanging!! How was it resolved

[–] Tenniswaffles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

It's an art piece. The picture of the family was projected onto a wall and the falling person posed in front of the projection and another photo was taken of that.

There's a video of someone investigating its origins somewhere but I forgot the name.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for the jumpscare, now I have to get a new pair of pants.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 12 hours ago

You're acting like there was no way to make convincing fake photos before AI. Treat it like before: don't take things you see at face value and do some actual research to confirm it.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Counterpoint: a formal transparent court proceeding would have requested the film negative

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago
[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 points 16 hours ago

Sorry, but you can already print polaroid pictures from a cell phone telephone. If someone handed you one of these, you'd have no way of knowing what the original source was from. You can do the same thing with any film technology.

[–] wunderkatze@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

No. Films can be faked too. You just need high quality 4K display to point your camera at. Even forensic can't tell the difference if you set it up right. Has been done ever since.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 13 points 18 hours ago

Film could be faked way before digital displays existed.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Has been done ever since

Oh shit, they got to them before they could explain

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 12 points 19 hours ago

No.

doctoring photos has been around since photography.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago

We don’t interact with physical photographs in the way we once did. Ultimately, 99% of our exposure (hehe) to photographs will still end up digitized, so the point is moot. But even in the rare instances of having a physical print, there’s really no evidence of the analog chain being unbroken. And even then, analog photos can be faked, just not with AI.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 20 hours ago

It would be a nice thing but the industry is too far invested in digital medium for that.

The revealing chemicals are expensive and need to be disposed of in a controlled manner, which implies costs photo shops are not willing to incur.

And there is the supply of fim.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Physical film has to be scanned and there’s your AI inlet.

Real photojournalism will demand cryptographicly signed image provenance.

For example Apple’s “reference image” feature uses a key in the secure enclave to sign the digital negative. I imagine Android will offer something similar.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Physical film has to be scanned

Uh, what? You can both reproduce, enlarge and project film photographs without them ever touching a digital device.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But to share them beyond a room, they will be digitized.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but, newspapers

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

All use digital publishing.

And in the olden days they could print darkroom doctored photos.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

Photo paper and home printers are pretty good these days. Not sure this would solve the deepfake problem.

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 0 points 19 hours ago

In a swiss cheese model of verification maybe