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A bit of due diligence may have been helpful in their decision making. Nothing of substance about Trump was not known before the election.
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I don't want to excuse their decision, but want to point out some context. Right-wing media is really effective at throwing out a ton of bullshit to obfuscate reality. The right-wing bubble throws out shit like Democrats having underground pedophile rings being run in DC pizza restaurants. Meanwhile Trump was found to have committed rape by a court.
Many conservative voters either:
- Don't hear about the second one
- Or hear about both and decide that all news is mostly made up trash like the National Inquirer
its called firehose of falsehood, create many false narratives to the point your opponents dont know how to respond to it, this also doubles internal propaganda the target base wouldnt know what is true or not. and yes its russian strategy, and fox works with putin closely with the propaganda.
another one was pretty much gaza muslims, refuse to vote for biden, eventhough it had no statistical different on the voting numbers before the election.
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After Epstein
Except Americans voted for Trump after Epstein. Everyone knew they were literally partners in crime. It was public knowledge so don‘t tell me anyone can possibly be surprised by this outcome. What a bunch of child rapist supporting hypocrites.
I mean up until recently they were all like, "haha just wait until the list comes out and all you libtards get yours." Of course, now that trump has made it abundantly clear he's on it (as opposed to it just being normally clear he was on it before), they've split into gullible idiots who feel betrayed and cultish idiots who now think pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.
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The thing is that not everyone knew.
You have to remember that many of these people grew up in what's basically a cult. They were brainwashed to believe that everything that didn't come out of Fox News was a lie from the enemy who wants to destroy them.
Critical thinking and questioning authority were actively punished.
It's easy to assume that everyone is as informed on politics as you are, but besides the above, many people just don't care enough to keep up to date with it.
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Did they not think to ask why the swamp wasn't drained during the first 4 years Trump was in office?
He was all talk about draining the swamp and building the wall in 2016 lol
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Release the Epstein files
Why are people so stupid, we're in the information age ffs!
Also in the misinformation age
Of course, it usually takes me a whole 30 seconds to verify news, I guess that's too much to ask of people.
The average person on Lemmy works at a far higher level than the average person in the public. Remember that they have to tell you not to line your baby's crib with plastic film. They have to tell you that the surface of an oven is hot. It's all about statistics. Take 10,000 people and some of them are going to do terribly stupid things.
The human attention span has been eroding ever since the invention of the radio.
I bet the ancient Greeks said the same thing about the invention of paper.
I have no clue how historically accurate that is, but my point is that humans have been stupid with short attention spans for a very long time
Not the ancient Greeks, but that's probably because they had parchment and not paper
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Because of people like Zuck, Musk, and whoever is twisting the YouTube algorithm these days. People are manipulable and they used their considerable power to manipulate young men without futures.
40+ years of Right wing propaganda and a hollowing out of our education system?
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To be fair, they're INCREDIBLY fucking stupid.
That's not fair. Lots of Americans across all demographics are incredibly fucking stupid, not just gen Z.
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My fellow Gen Z are dumbasses everywhere
It's maddening to think an entire group of young men are dumb enough to think a rich douchecanoe who is by any account far from being a besoin of ethical business would be one to "drain the swamp" (to say nothing of his overall complete lack of morality). This was obvious basic populism from the start.
This article expresses opinions which are so dumb that it hurts.
Thinking that Trump is "anti-establishment" was fucking stupid to begin with. As a millionaire he is by definition part of the elite.
And if it takes the Epstein case to realize that you have been duped you're also a bit late to the party. They have been taking everything they can from you and gave it to the rich for months now, and there is no end in sight. Enjoy working those shit jobs for minimal wages. Those that were previously done by immigrants which you wanted to see deported.
Also the whole gullible MAGA male problem is not limited to Gen Z. Being a dumb fuck is a fun activity for the whole family.
It does make the important point that MAGA cultists are not limited to boomers though, which is something a lot of younger people seems to think. Being young doesn't mean you are immune to the lure of fascism.
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They voted for Trump to drain the swamp!? That is like voting for Epstein to end child prostitution.
Do they not think for themselves? Can they not see how trump performed historically? Why did they think he would suddenly be different this time?
Older gen Z guy here. A lot of gen Z guys are dumber than bricks and have been specifically propagandized to since middle school or younger. I was part of the first wave during gamer gate and the only reason I broke free is because I have the perfect mix of autism, superiority complex, and inferiority complex which fully kicked in circa 2015 and overrid the propaganda hard. Basically I looked at Trump and came to the conclusion that I am better than him in every way even with my perpetual fuck up status and thusly anyone who supports him inherently are less than him and thusly less than me.
I broke away on a fluke of batshit insane psychology, most of these younger guys especially have to touch the stove to know it's hot.
Guess I can’t talk. Gen X was one of the biggest trump supporters, but knowing my cohort I just assumed they were all a bunch of leftover homophobes and racists like a lot of our parents were. I was mostly the same but I also have AuDHD and have an incredibly difficult time with hypocrisy and injustice, so things like religion or anyone claiming superiority over others, regardless of reason, while being an absolute tool themselves really turned me off to the whole racist and homophobic social standards of the day. Took a few years to get away from the casual, unthinking racism - not actually being hard core racist, but the casual kind where you told racist jokes and made sweeping judgements about a group while still maybe going to school with them them and getting along just fine.
I will correct you. A lot of people are dumber than bricks. At least gen z got the internet access when their brains were still free of junk that govs showed on tv 24/7. From my observations it is the older population think that god exists, and stupid fakes on tik tok are reliable source of information. What gen z lack is manners, cause their parents didnt give a shit and just ipaded their way out of parenting
They feel duped because they were duped. (By the most obvious con man in history.)
Wow so rebellious and edgy to rage for the machine that is destroying us all. What a bunch of bootlicking simps….embarrassing
Swamp monster voters shocked Swamp monster won't drain his home...
Mr. Thompson, what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response, were you close to anything, that could considered a rational thought, everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
The lead poisoning from vaping is getting to them.
One of the e-cigs studied released more lead during a day's use than 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.
- UC Davis
I’ve smoked a pack a day for the last 30 years, and I didn’t vote for Trump. 🤷
Well a pack a day for 30 years is "only" about 10957 packs. If a vape is equal to 20 packs a day, you only need to vape for 548 days to have surpassed your lead intake.
So if they've been vaping his entire first presidency, then they have at least 40 years worth of lead intake.
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We all know that Trump is ... mentally not the giant he thinks he is. He said "Draining the Swamp", but he really meant "Swamping the Drain".
"Swamping the drain" is the first step to "flooding the zone with shit".
What happens when you elect the alligator to drain the swamp it lives in? Such a mystery. 🤔
They drained the swamp and replaced it with quick sand
They drained the swamp and now people are starting to realize that the swamp was actually a very complex ecosystem necessary, teeming with diverse life and preventing hurricane storm surge from sploshing all over the eastern seaboard.
They drained the swamp and now they are left with the stench of all the rotting carcasses decaying in briney mud amidst the hottest and driest summer we've ever seen.
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They haven't felt duped enough.
Anecdotal, but living in a very conservative area as an engineer, most coworkers (especially my age) are very left leaning. It's the technicians and old farts close to retiring that still gargle trump's balls.
I dont think they can claim they were tricked and get off the hook. They were fully aware of what they were voting for and ties to Epstein is absolutely nothing Compared to the damage trump is doing.
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